EPISODE · Apr 2, 2025 · 31 MIN
Fixing Your Brand in ChatGPT, Perplexity & Gemini Before It’s Too Late
from From Startup to Wunderbrand · host Nicholas Kuhne, Michael Buckbee
Michael Buckbee joins Nicholas Kuhne to break down how AI is disrupting search, branding, and content marketing—and what businesses can do to stay ahead. With a career spanning cybersecurity, marketing, and SaaS startups, Michael is now the co-founder of Knowatoa, a tool that tracks brand sentiment and visibility across AI search engines like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google Gemini.📣 Call to Action🔎 Check your brand's presence on AI search engines:👉 https://www.knowatoa.com📬 Connect with Michael: [email protected]🎧 Edit your podcasts like a pro:👉 https://get.descript.com/mrzy10nwivuq🎙️ Join me as a guest or start your podcast journey:👉 https://www.joinpodmatch.com/nickkuhne⏱️ Timestamps & Key Topics00:00 – AI hallucinations, six-fingered hands, and early challenges01:30 – Meet Michael Buckbee: marketing + tech + security + startups02:10 – The rise of AI search: ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Gemini03:00 – Why Google is disrupting itself with Gemini04:30 – Traditional vs AI search: how brand sentiment is now exposed06:20 – Case Study: What ChatGPT says about Wells Fargo07:10 – Nicholas tests Wunderbrand across AI search tools08:00 – How Knowatoa was born (from a script to a SaaS)10:00 – Fixing brand perception in AI: sentiment, statements & knowledge11:30 – How to allow AI crawlers to read your site12:00 – Brand statement content vs traditional content marketing13:30 – Commercial queries are the new SEO gold14:30 – Future of search: from search intent to task intent16:00 – From text to visual + voice + AR: the next frontier of AI interaction17:00 – How visual AI and wearables will change how we search18:00 – What kind of content still matters in AI search19:00 – Repetition and association: How LLMs form knowledge20:30 – Two kinds of AI hallucinations: a marketing opportunity22:00 – Startup mindset: from side project to SaaS company23:30 – Real talk on founder motivation, talking to customers & vanity metrics26:00 – Who is Knowatoa really for? Agencies & brand-focused companies27:30 – Potential for a multi-AI brand comparison tool28:00 – Michael’s past work with presidential campaigns and federal agencies29:00 – Final tips on distribution, partnerships & making tools that scale Connect with me on:All my linksBecome a guestSign up for RiversideGet Descript #DigitalMarketing #Branding #PersonalBranding #MarketingInsights #SocialMediaStrategy Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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This conversation explores why brands matter more in AI search than ever before, how hallucinations affect AI’s output, and what the future of advertising and content marketing might look like in a multimodal world. If you’ve ever wondered how your company shows up in AI-generated responses—or what to do about it—this episode is packed with real answers and tactical insight.
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