EPISODE · Jun 21, 2026 · 27 MIN
Friends, Friction, and the Fine Art of Collaboration
from The Not So Breakfast Show · host Sacha and Ish
Send us Fan MailEpisode 263In this episode, Ish and Sacha unpack the joy and occasional lumpiness of working with people who have different styles to your own. The conversation comes from real life, as they have recently been building a project together and noticing the little differences in how they think, plan, create, communicate, and get things over the line. They talk about the difference between co-presenting, where they already have an easy rhythm, and co-creating, where the work is messier because both people are shaping the thing at the same time. Ish likes to see the structure and the steps. Sacha often wants to think, talk, shape the words, and polish closer to the deadline. Neither approach is wrong, but they do require conversation, trust, and the occasional grown-up check-in.They also explore what happens when collaboration is not optional: project teams, clients, suppliers, banks, doctors’ surgeries, and the general life admin circus. There is a great thread about frictionless experiences making us less resilient, plus a very practical reminder that a little bit of rub is not always a bad thing.The big takeaway? Working well with others is not about finding people who are exactly like you. It is about understanding what the work needs, what the other person needs, what you need, and being honest enough to bridge the gaps before everyone quietly loses their mind.Key Topics1. Different working styles are not the problem; unspoken expectations are2. Co-creating needs a different kind of trust3. A little friction can be useful4. Use “I” statements when collaboration gets tricky5. Sometimes the problem is you, and that is useful to knowThe 30-Minute Presenter ProgramLearn how to map out your content, structure your thoughts, and craft messages that truly matter.Check out our 30-Minute Presenter Program today.Click here to learn more
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Send us Fan Mail Episode 263 In this episode, Ish and Sacha unpack the joy and occasional lumpiness of working with people who have different styles to your own. The conversation comes from real life, as they have recently been building a project together and noticing the little differences in how they think, plan, create, communicate, and get things over the line. They talk about the difference between co-presenting, where they already have an easy rhythm, and co-creating, where the wo...
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