From Burnout to Breakthrough: Rethinking the SOC featuring Benjamin Dulieu

What happens when a Marine-turned-CISO stops accepting the status quo in cybersecurity?  Benjamin Delieu, Chief Security Officer at Duck Creek Technologies, joins Nate Burke and Lior Div to explore how AI agents—not centralized systems—are reshaping the future of security operations. From overburdened SOC teams to the hidden costs of legacy infrastructure, Benjamin shares his perspectives from the frontline of transformation. He reveals his DIY AI trainer, an “aha” moment in Italy, and how he’s empowering his team to think creatively and build faster. This episode isn't just about tech—it’s about leadership, mindset shifts, and letting go of the old to build what's next.   Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 02:00 – From Marines to AI-driven security leadership 03:40 – How a DIY AI trainer changed everything 05:00 – Kids, travel, and AI integration in daily life 07:00 – “Free the people” from 24/7 SOC toil 10:30 – The CISO bucket list and wasted creativity 14:45 – Flex the AI muscle like a bicep 18:00 – The RFP automation story that saved six figures 20:30 – AI-native vs. AI-retrofitted companies 25:30 – Destroy the old; build what’s next 27:00 – Inside Benjamin’s viral AI Innovation Series 30:00 – Don’t lead with ROI—start with small wins 36:30 – Magic wand moment: “Making memories, breaking systems” 38:45 – Three takeaways for modern security leaders Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at [email protected]