From Corporate Law to Ocean Advocacy

In this episode of the Sustainable Ambassador Podcast, I am joined by Hiroko Muraki Gottlieb, an accomplished environmental lawyer whose career spans global business, nonprofits, intergovernmental organizations, and academia. Hiroko shares her journey from practicing corporate environmental law to becoming deeply involved in international policy making, including her critical role in shaping the High Seas Treaty. Together, we explore the role of legal professionals in sustainability, the challenges of aligning diverse interests, and her insights into building impactful careers in environmental law and policy. Whether you're a legal professional, policymaker, or sustainability enthusiast, this episode is packed with wisdom and inspiration.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome to episode01:08 – Hiroko Introduction02:12 – Role of Lawyers in Policy03:48 – Challenges in Advocacy05:11 – Science and Policy Integration07:21 – High Seas Treaty Overview09:22 – Ratification Process11:30 – Country-Specific Dynamics13:19 – Balancing Speed and Consensus15:18 – Lessons from Negotiations18:23 – Passion and Professionalism20:24 – Personal Takeaways22:45 – Future Focus25:20 – Advice for Aspiring Environmental Lawyers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.