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EPISODE · Mar 26, 2026 · 35 MIN

From HR to ESPN? - E:22

from The Serving Second Podcast · host Toussaint Williams, PhD

Ever feel like you're stuck in the shadows or just playing a supporting role in life's grand play? Well, buckle up, because today’s episode is all about embracing that second seat — and turning it into a throne of influence, purpose, and potential! Kirk, aka The Seed Sower Coach, spills the secrets of how serving behind the scenes can lead to extraordinary breakthroughs, both in careers and in life. Spoiler alert: your greatest impact might just come from the roles nobody celebrates first! In this episode: How faith transforms the idea of leadership into service without ego Kirk’s journey from HR to ESPN and coaching — and how mentorship unlocked new pathways The behind-the-scenes magic of producing a major sports broadcast with hundreds of crew members Why age is just a number — Kirk's tips for thriving in your 60s and beyond The metaphorical power of seeds and soil in coaching, growth, and potential Practical wisdom for those serving in secondary roles: unlocking unseen gifts The importance of community, contribution, and the power of perspective in life's seasons How to keep learning and growing when the spotlight isn't on you Timestamps: 00:00 - Unlocking your potential through service and faith 01:03 - Kirk’s leap from sports stats to ESPN and coaching 02:25 - The value of mentorship and career pivoting 03:43 - How ESPN launched Kirk into broadcasting stardom behind the scenes 07:23 - Lessons learned from supporting roles in high-stakes sports productions 11:16 - Navigating leadership tension in second seat roles 13:03 - Unlocking potential in others & self through coaching 16:52 - The story behind "The Seed Sower" — planting and nurturing growth 19:33 - Writing a book at any age and pursuing lifelong goals 29:28 - Embracing aging, health, and staying driven in your 60s and beyond 31:54 - Serving second: Embracing the importance and impact of secondary roles 34:20 - The beauty of being second in command: lessons from history and pop culture 35:13 - Connect with Kirk at theseedsowercoach.com Resources & Links: The Seed Sower Coach Website Connect with Kirk: Website Get inspired to serve second, lead humbly, and unlock your God-given potential! Don't wait for the spotlight — your greatest impact might just shine from the shadows. So, if you're feeling underrated, undervalued, or simply in the second seat right now, remember — that seat might just be your launchpad. Oh, and by the way: your next chapter is just one seed away from blooming! Now go ahead, plant those seeds!

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