From Paginators to AI: Angus Murray on the Future of Law

Angus Murray joins host Chantal McNaught to explore what it really means to practice law in a world of rapid technological change, AI tools, and growing pressure to treat law as a business first and a profession second.From a childhood conversation with his grandmother in England to a Masters in Stockholm and a career at the intersection of technology, privacy and human rights, Angus shares how his path in law has always come back to one theme: keeping humans at the centre. He and Chantal delve into why some of the “boring” aspects of legal work still matter, how AI can both support and undermine good legal practice, and why the profession overlooks early career development at its peril.In this episode, we discuss:👉 How Angus built a career across practice, technology, human rights and academia👉 Why law must remain human centred, even as AI tools spread👉 The tension between law as a profession and law as a business👉 The paginator story. what old tech can teach us about new tools👉 Why slow, careful work is still an ethical advantage in law👉 AI “hallucinations”, headnotes and the danger of outsourcing thinking👉 How cutting junior roles for AI might hollow out future legal skills👉 What really counts as a “legal service”, and how that may evolve👉 The importance of humility. lawyers as servants to a justice system and to societyIf you enjoy this episode of Law and Beyond on the People in Legal podcast, please follow or subscribe in your podcast app and consider leaving a rating or review. It helps others in the legal and tech community find the show.