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EPISODE · Nov 20, 2025 · 30 MIN

From Talk to Action: Inside ALPMA’s Changing Legal Landscape with Carl Olson

from People in Legal · host People in Legal - Andrew, Chantal, David, Grace, Jonathan, Roni, Tim

Host Chantal McNaught talks with Dye & Durham’s APAC MD, Carl Olson, about ALPMA’s Changing Legal Landscape report. They discuss the near-ubiquitous AI trial among practitioners, widening governance gaps, the sharp rise in wellbeing initiatives, and the real psychological load of cybersecurity incidents. Carl outlines what forward-facing firms are actually doing: holistic programmes that blend policy, process, capability-building, and technology. The conversation also challenges assumptions about flexible work and the four-day week, and why the best research often leaves us with more questions than tidy answers. Carl and Chantal reveal: The scope of the report and the importance of this research. Wellbeing momentum and clear implementation gaps. Generative AI adoption and where firms are looking to improve on governance. Challenging the stereotype that lawyers are slow adopters. Cybersecurity priorities and the cost of hypervigilance and leadership stress. What leading firms do through holistic transformation. Carl's favourite song. Links Deep dive into the research discussed from the Changing Legal Landscape Report More information about the Australasian Law Practice Managers Association (ALPMA) is available here: https://www.alpma.com.au/research/ Here is the Cyber Security Emotional Wellness Checklist by Professor Liz Howard mentioned on the show. Disclosure: This episode was brought to you by the generosity of Dye & Durham APAC. Without partners like Dye & Durham, we would not be able to produce this content for listeners. In the development of this episode, we have retained full editorial control. Correction: Carl described a cyber security incident occurring from the New South Wales "Reconstruction Agency". The incident involved the New South Wales Reconstruction Authority and that was a data breach. More about this data breach can be read here.

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