From Vanilla Ice to Jaxson Dart (with Cole Costello)

In this episode, host Alex Kopytko welcomes back recurring guest and history PhD student Cole Costello for a wide-ranging conversation on politics, culture, sports, and the stories we tell ourselves about all three. The two discuss the Great American Fair, celebrity politics, the ongoing debate around public figures and their personal views, and whether modern media focuses on the right controversies. They also dive into Chuck Klosterman's ideas about football, exploring why America's most popular sport is unlike any other and what its structure reveals about human nature and society.