Game Night

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We're talking game night, game night. Shout out to one, Mr. Johnny Bananas and his lovely girlfriend, Mattie, who suggested this topic. You're gonna say that, boys, real name or no.

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Game night. Let me tell you about game night. Yeah. It's a slippery slope.

It's a precarious situation. Right. I do like a game night, but you gotta have the right ingredients. And this is what we're here to take you through because game night can be hell on earth.

It really can't it is swing so hard in both directions. Yeah, but I but I like a game night if we're gonna do it right. Well, that's the only way we do things here. So what's your first?

Do you have a category? I think the obvious category to start with is games. Yeah, it's not what I was gonna start with. But yeah.

And let me toss something out there. Very not quite yet. Monopoly. Okay.

It's too fucking long, my brother. Okay. So I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, it starts fights.

Can I give you the case for Monopoly? Okay. Hit me with the Monopoly defense. It's a it's a if the whole group is on board and I mean on board.

I mean, 100%. It comes has that ever happened. Listen, it comes up organically. It's not like somebody comes in and is like, guys, I've got an idea, but it really just manifests.

It doesn't come up organically because the person that brings Monopoly is the person that was invited to the game night and was told that we'll be noble and brought their own in hopes that they're not. I think that there's a merit in the fact that it's so bad that it's almost a challenge to play a whole game. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's a what a bad challenge for a game to have.

It's so unfun that you bet you can't finish it. It's like if you if you set out and you're like, I'm gonna watch all of Doctor Who. Like from the original series. Yeah, you might as well binge watch a whole season of a TV show instead of playing Monopoly.

Okay. Monopoly. Very not quite lit. I have to tell you.

I got two for you. I got another one. Oh, go on. I don't.

Yeah. I think we're gonna say the same thing. Do not care for that settlers of Katan. We'll see.

Okay. I do like the settlers of Katan or Katan or Chris Katan. If you will, is it? There's a Chris Katan.

But that's not part of game night to me. That is Settlers Night. We're playing one game of Settlers Night. The whole thing.

I'm not playing a game before or after Settlers of Chris Katan. Are you kidding me? Okay. So what's so I think that brings up an interesting point because Settlers is bad for lots of reasons.

I don't like it because it's too much of a dedication and well, it's also makes me feel stupid because it does require use of your brain. Well, I will say also it never it is counterintuitive to friendship. Like the whole if you're playing the game, single of some Monopoly. Yeah.

Well, but Monopoly at least it's like there's some luck involved. So it's like, well, sorry dude. You landed on my. Throw at it.

Throw risk in there, baby. Risk. Yeah. Risk.

These long fucking games that I know you critters out their love. Okay. So here's an interesting point that gets brought up. How many game make a good game night?

Because more than one for sure. Two. I think minimum of two. I don't mind a two game game night.

Okay. Sometimes they're long. Do we is there a cap though? Also because like sometimes people show up with like six board games and I'm like brother.

Well, you never see a game night to me is you play a couple games and then you maybe go to a bar afterwards. Okay. Minimum. Minimum two.

I tenerary. Ooh, I tenerary. Okay. You came with a plan here.

You came with a whole. Your gun is loaded. I tenerary. Yeah.

I'm caught in love. Two games. Minimum. You got to get more than one game.

I agree because then it doesn't really feel like a game night. It's just like well you guys. Yeah. And this is very different than we're all getting together to play only one game.

Okay. Yeah. Two games minimum. I really want to put a maximum on it, but we don't have to do that now.

I just think if more than four is like. I wouldn't sit through it. Like even if it's games I know. Unless they're quick games.

But even that four different setups and breakdowns. Like even if it's like. Yeah. And also if you're playing a game that's like quick you're probably going to play multiple.

Right. Like what are you talking? Uno? Because even that is like I'm not going to play one game of Uno.

What the fuck. Oh, toss Uno. Yes, baby. Uno fucking hell.

I love that shit. I agree with that. I also card games one that makes me feel dumb because I feel like somebody always knows a game that nobody. Oh, seven card run me.

Anybody seven card run me. And it's like I don't do I don't want to learn how to play your mother's fucking gypsy game please. And it's not poker because I'm not here for poker night. Right.

It's not poker night. It's not settlers night. Very not quite like poker. It's not a game night.

It's a poker night. I got a two for clue because that is sometimes a hoot and sometimes not a hoot because you cannot move very far with the role of the dice of that game. I'm a house rule guy where you get to move diagonally and include and make the game more fucking fun. A lot of people do not hold to that.

I think maybe this ends up going somewhere else but I'm going to put it in bonus points now and we can move it later. House rules. I do love a house rule. Oh, I love house rules.

A game I know also. Hey, you ready? Jenga. Toss it.

Get away from me. I'm gonna give Jenga a two. But no, hold on. Sometimes Jenga is fun because you could write stuff on them and make truth or dare Jenga.

Here's the problem. Jenga is and I'm not joking. It's too scary. Okay, it is very scary.

I will agree. You know what? It's maybe a top five worst things in my life that I hate the most is when a bar got that big Jenga and somebody's playing it and I'm not really paying it. And then it sounds like a clap of thunder.

I don't care for that. I want to give Jenga too because I like when people write stuff on them or like it's like drinking Jenga. Have you seen the ones that have little spaces for Jello shots in them? You never know which one you're gonna get.

Honestly, you're about to force me to put Jello shot in very not quite lit too. I don't. I'm. I'm.

I can't. Everything you're saying is bad to me. I don't mind a Jenga. I think it's funny to me that you're like put it in very pretty good because of the truth or dare bricks.

Truth or dare itself is very pretty good. No, it's but it's more fun. No, because you don't have to think of anything. You just draw it and you have to do whatever's on the thing.

I just I don't I. Jenga is so very bad to me. All right. All right.

I'll move it. I think I'll move it. I'm looking for the people. I know that people like it.

That's why it's in bars all the time, but goddamn I hate that game. I really like have a monopoly. It's just like I don't want to play it. Jenga, I have malicious feelings towards it.

Guess who? That's a one. Come on and racist. It makes me feel okay.

That's fair. That's fair. Are you black? Yeah.

Jesus Christ. Okay, yeah. Fair. Domino's.

I'm putting in mouse trap. Very not quite lit. Too many pieces. Wait, wait, wait.

I'm going domino's very quite lit. I love domino's. Oh, you love domino's bones, baby. Oh, okay.

I like playing the game of domino's. You're not trying to line them up and knock them down. Yes, you've got to put that into two though because you know people are going to misusing it. They can't know absolutely not if that person I mean we'll get to crew But if they're gonna set it up all the way around the bed is a user error.

That's not dominoes You know that humans are agents of a lot of God yeah, I guess you're right That's so upsetting to me because I really like dominoes, but you're not wrong. Yeah, but we're not earned them Mouse trap bad too many pieces one of them always lost There's never been a full set of mousetrap if you've never been able to create the full mousetrap You sort of a mousetrap in itself setting up the game mousetrap This is gonna be another situation like like sports bar where we just have so much bad stuff because okay We might as well just get to it. Can we do go to attendees? Well, I have another bad game twister It's tragically bad first of all you need so much space to play it and I can't live in room.

Yeah twister. No good Not even a good idea. Okay. Yeah the crew you need a crew.

Yeah, let me toss the first very not quite low the night Yeah, I'm not rules guy guys guys. I take it too seriously But it's the same thing I think that's too separate because we know we personally know a rules guy and he doesn't always take it seriously You're saying yes, you know what I mean, but you know what I gotta say I gotta say I think I might want to put rules guy To because sometimes you need rules guy you need the presence of rules guy because otherwise it's chaos I like but I love a chaos. I don't need I mean I I putting him in the middle here But I do think that I think he's a he's a necessary evil. Yeah, he's chaotic good.

Yeah, he's yeah lawful good or whatever the fun Yeah, overly competitive guy toss him all the way down to heck how about um very pretty good I have a controversial one a bickering couple. Okay, I agree and I got another very pretty good guy who doesn't understand all the rules Cuz that's funny, but at sometimes it's got to stop. It's funny to an extent And you're like dog we played this game twice already you must know that on your turn you get these two options Yes guy who doesn't give a shit one way or another just wants to have fun I don't know if he has a name that's obviously a very quite lit. Yeah, I'm just saying guy a lot But it's mostly just because we're talking shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah person person person person Yeah rules guy stays guy, but I'll put a person for the rest of you So beyond bickering couple because I have couples on the brain because I feel like a game night is very couples thing I feel like basically every couple is very pretty good because all of it can be okay And then sometimes it's like all right we get it you're in love get away from me now I'll tell you a very quite lit a host okay, but I think host is its own category Oh, because there's a whole mess of hosts. You know I'm saying okay sure now Let me hit you with a very quite little host shout out to my friend Gina who recently hosted a game night Gina Bakes some special snacks each time. She made some goat cheese puff things Exquisite she made some she post that I want a little bit of cooking you know what I mean? Yeah, I want you to cook them I don't want you just go buy the next I want to taste that okay, okay?

Okay, all right, so homemade homemade treats. We'll call that mm-hmm But that also seems like a snack should I delete this next category no we'll talk about snack This is just what the host provides homemade treats, you know That's a very good for the host I don't okay I don't think we need to put snacks on here because we're just gonna end up doing the same thing We always do which is like barbecues bad soup is bad Like fucking pretzels are good like come on over to my soup game night and soup night, dude I can't I'm really I'm releasing snacks from this right now Come on for the time being let's talk about which soups are appropriate for game night No, I'm deleting the row and everything just believe it's own category obviously and we'll talk soup Because here's how it goes right homemade treats store-bought treats And then no treats no treats. Yeah, are you kidding me if I show up to your house and you're like you guys didn't bring You guys didn't bring any food. I got no food.

I'm gonna ask you the question. We've asked a hundred times What about drugs? Okay, I think that the drugs here. I don't okay I think drugs are gonna be a two for me and everything that we ever do yes I think well no you're a lunatic sometimes it's gotta be a one what if it what if we're doing like Tanzania, you can't say okay, we will not be doing Tanzania why Like a dicey move on our part Okay drugs medium for sure Booze I think you got a mandatory sober game night not that one I mean look this is for people that drink no no judges on the sober folk out there right right right right right for those who drink Booze's mandatory.

Yeah, I like a mid game host shows up with a tray of shots. Oh while we're changing up games Why not so halftime have time treats treats do you specifically has to be it specifically has to be boo streets Have time have time could be anything but I do like halftime booze. I don't I shot is a little bit much for me I feel like shot I think a little shot who kind of jolts you into the next game right? Oh shake it off Let's go what we doing it is the power that a shot has is incredible, isn't it is a it's a natural wake up You're not gonna get sleepy or after you take a shot.

I think that if I took a shot right before an Olympic get like level you would throw up instantly No, no, no, I would be powered to win you talk about like a sprint. I'm talking about a sprint talking about a Michael Phelps swimming pool activity Okay, got it. I think under ten seconds you would puke. Oh, man.

You would puke in the Olympic pool and it would force everyone to get out Okay, so what you're saying is I would win thank you very much It's not no, it's not a win as it would be a disqualification. Okay, so host the most host of the most Crew just here to have fun Person that has I think a good crew member is person that has a bunch of kind of obscure games Not like annoyingly obscure, but like so this is a whole I there's a whole lot to talk about here, right? How do we feel about explaining a game? Okay?

Yes, it's bad, but sometimes person that shows up with that game has a fun game It's gotta be easy to explain Sometimes the best ones are not even easy to explain. Yes, I know it's such a it's so dicey Like I just got it really just got a brand new game and it's one of these games. That's like really cool It's really fun, but it does take like 40 minutes to fucking really figure it out. I love ticket to ride People I love secret.

Yes hard to explain to people and it's so touch and go for that time because people are just sitting there like So to that effect there are a number of classic games that I think people you think are stupid But actually are very fun and I'm gonna hit you with in my opinion a very quiet lit Sorry interesting. Yeah, sorry is so easy and it's hilarious because he encourages you to be as obnoxious as possible Which is clearly where I shine yeah, we but the only two games we have for very quite Come on over to our game night everybody. Yeah, we got Uno and sorry come on Shot to the back they're cooling down. I got a very not quite lit and we're just gonna have to talk about it right now And I'm sorry everybody but Cards against humanity.

Oh my god. It's not Let's just take a second though. Okay, because cards and humanity is a more fun version of a good apple's apples Oh, you're so fucking wrong. It's unbelievable.

I hate both of them I hate apples to apples is head and shoulders better than parts of humanity I haven't played apples in so long that I can't remember but I just know that I hate them both This is I saw those are games for unfunny people. No, no, no This is the tweet I saw that I thought was perfect cards against humanity is A funny game for unfunny people and apples to apples is an unfunny game for funny people because apples to apples challenges you to make something of nothing Okay, whereas cards against humanity is like big old soggy dick. Yeah, which is funny. Don't get me wrong It's right.

It's kind of funny, but it's funny in that like the way that like somebody quotes south park is funny Like it's not that funny if you're quoting south park. Yeah, okay. I'll agree to that Either way, tell me you toss them both though because I don't like no But apples to apples has the appeal of what you just said, which is it's so fucking easy to learn You know what I mean? Like there's no explanation you just whip it out.

I'll allow you to give it to Yeah, two people Howdy is it not fun? It's yeah, and there's also 10 million rip-offs of that style of game and then the toss them all yeah Oh, can I I'm gonna dab into a whole different section of the dark arts I'm not sure anything is better. Welcome to the pinnacle of game night jackbox party pack No need for literally any other games. Honestly, this might be the exception to the two game minimum rule because this is a party pack You've got five games.

Oh, yeah, you'll play you'll play nine hours at jackbox. Mm-hmm. I fucking adore jackbox Yes, number three the big one number three the big juicy, but you really can't go wrong for all you out there Thinking about getting into it. You've been thinking about experimenting with the jackbox Oh experiment away open the floodgates let jackbox into your heart and into your mind into your butt Please and thank you.

I got a game that's a three for me go on and the foundation upon which this game is built is genius Because there's so many different types of people at game night. There's the creatives. There's the smarts There's the funnies. Why not combine them all and do a little game.

I like to call cranium Yeah, only problem with cranium is that clay gets nasty. Huh? Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah But well then you just toss that clay into one of the puff patrons and eat it up Mmm I gotta eat the clay do you ever play that high-stakes cranium eat the clay got to be very not quite lit as far as games go, huh? Yeah, what's that?

Salty game game never mind. Oh, yikes brother. I mean, oh you want to talk about a bad host I have the worst game night host in the biz go on jigsaw, baby. That guy has crazy games.

Yeah, he's yeah Famously a bad game night host. He's always like would you like to play a game and they're like no dude this game is awful Yes. Yes. He's overly competitive guy jigsaw is really competitive guy and murderer guy Does game night have to take place in a home?

Oh my god. I was I was thinking the same thing the venue I don't have any examples of what I'm talking about but I'm just trying to sneak it out loud It's been in my wheels well I think can we can we combine host and venue or is that too? I just think that's not two categories worthy, but I do want to talk about venue should we just say host we do whatever the fuck we want? Remember that that's true.

I forgot nobody's our fucking house. There are no rules I think a bar is medium to me I just think like number one now I'm paying for alcohol when at a game night like the fridge is gonna be stocked number two Like I feel like sometimes it's just uncomfortable or like you're dealing with kind of a lower class of games They all got fucking beer stains on them and yeah, I guess what anyone's saying. Let's do game night I feel like game night implies is actually it's someone's home I think that's kind of might be a rule, you know because otherwise you're going to a bar with board games Well, you're not at the bar for the games. I would imagine you're not at the bar for like the 20 year old shoots and ladders with half the pieces missing I have to tell you that I myself have done that Okay, so so what's wrong with you?

Well, it happened on accident. I guess a game night is sort of planned game night I guess has to well no game doesn't have to be premeditated. Mm. Okay, because I think it could just be like An impromptu game.

Well, just like a couple of friends hanging out and they're like, oh, you know what we're gonna do tonight Oh, let's fuck around have a game night. Let's go. Let's do it. Let's do it.

I gotta I gotta one for you. Yeah, sure aids Yeah, I don't really get I've ever played it in real life. Yeah, it's awful. That's honestly craniums got it in there Yeah, I was gonna say it's the exact property.

I'm looking at my shelf right now Well, okay So we gotta go back to the obscure games because I'm not just gonna list off all the obscure games I have but there is a value to them is that just is are we putting out a two because of the risk factor? Yes, correct, but there is some choice fucking like indie games. Oh my god now. Let me ask you this is game night board game only No, hand game only is a video game.

Yeah, we said jackbox. I think it's so I think video games are very pretty good So video games in general because that's alienating to people that don't play them now But then just don't invite those people nothing on the itinerary besides two games minimum and a mission to give them Well, okay, very not quite lit. So let's just go with this game thing. Uh-huh very not quite lit only one game Yeah, that's nothing and then more than four to me is like it's hell.

No, thanks. Yeah, you're just doing too much reading rules Where we put that? Oh, that's that's probably on the itinerary and it's got to be very It's tough because it's so necessary, but fuck me it sucks And you know what else sucks is when you think you know how to play a game and then you realize you don't you have to look at the rules of your own game That you provided oh my god. Oh my god.

It's the worst thing. Okay, reading rules gotta be the it's got it's going in the That's a one and then no one's listening. Oh god. I'm getting anxiety.

Yeah, that's oh, that's truly or somebody size in the middle of you And when you start to do that thing when you quick read you know exactly what I'm talking about right? The person that went first they take the token and they Talk like think about what like what peaks and valleys type of night game that is, you know what I'm saying There are so many highs and lows to this to this evening. It's yeah, it's true to really nail one is tough I I gotta um, I gotta throw something out there and I think this is crew But I have a friend whose thing is like I don't know if it's good or not and he's done it many times His thing is that when we're playing a new game for the first time He will pull up a youtube let's play video of it and be like instead of reading the rules. Let's watch this Oh toss that.

I don't like that. Okay, but but it's it's everything about it sounds Fundamentally horrible, but I have to tell you with their editing and quick cut like it's it is a much more palatable way to ingest the rules of a game I guess you gotta put it on a two because I don't know the quality of this video No, no, they're good. Like these are like unboxing videos, you know, we're like who would watch this and then there's like 30 million views and they're all I'll give that a two. I could see how that is better than reading the rules, but I could tell you I'm out just from the from the description I know I know but it's so you you must like when you've got the right crew You must try it because it is really like that works for me for like physical games like a drinking game, right?

Well, but like let's say for some reason you don't know how beer part works That's what I would be like. Okay. Let's watch a youtube video Yeah, I just think about like where you're like moving pieces across the board Well, think about like secret Hitler like knowing even just like seeing a video of where people are putting the cars You know what I gotta say I believe when I bought secret Hitler they had like a link to a website with a video and I believe I watched it and it helped It's not just wallaby. I think it's really helpful.

Anyone out there playing your game night think about it It gets you a very not quite let-remember. Okay. It's the complete opposite of overly competitive guy It's the guy who doesn't take it seriously enough and is a drag for everyone god Doesn't care person but like and this is different than like just here for fun guy This is person who's like really trying to derail things like oh you show everyone how little they care. Yeah, don't come It's fine.

You're probably right turns out. You're probably right. This is probably stupid, but you don't have to come Yeah, that's the thing you knew it was a game night, baby unless it was one of these impromptu ones that I just throw up whenever Hosting venue very not quite lit and I feel like this happens more often than it should bad or limited seating. Okay.

Yeah. Oh god You know when you get to somebody's house two people on the couch the rest of the people are sitting on the floor around the coffee table Right, it's like this is not a horrible. I guess but you offered to host this. You knew that this was the situation You don't have a kitchen table.

We have a kitchen table. What are we doing? Right? I think because I mentioned this earlier, but we didn't put it down anywhere Is there a diminishing returns when it comes to person who brings lots of games like if somebody shows up with 10 games Is it ever too many?

I don't mind well, I think that that person's does not intend to play the ball No, right. I'm saying it's awesome to the bottom of the depths Well, like like I'll give a even a real shout out Stephen koo shout out to Stephen koo He is a game shout out to Stephen koo He is a game wizard and that dude will show up for a game night with like five or six games knowing full well They were only gonna play one or two, but just I like that move give us a stop. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, okay I'm gonna like keeper of many games Stephen koo Okay, crew. I kind of like an old rivalry You know like somebody that's always at your game night or someone you went to like high school with like someone that you can be competitive with And it's normal. You know what I'm talking about. Mm-hmm.

I kind of like that Can that be a is that a very quite literally putting that somewhere else? What just good friend? No, not good friend So like the the way I'm picturing it is like sometimes a game night is gonna be like You know me and you and then maybe some friends of ours and then maybe some acquaintances And it's pretty casual I sort of like if it's like me and like four really close friends because then we could really dig into each other, you know like okay Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a really it's like a collective game night I can't be like damn sucks that you like it to be kind of savage and I would agree with that. Yeah, that's fucking rip each other a new one Yeah, okay cool.

Yeah good. I'm glad okay I have a I have another one if we're including video games what about an outdoor game like hide and seek well maybe hide and seek Maybe like when I was in high school Colton shot at the Colton had a basketball hoop in his backyard So we'd play like a couple of video games inside and then we go shoot hoops for like 30 minutes I guess that just feels like hanging out just hanging out not a proper game night. I guess that's fair That's fair. Yeah physical game because like I love sardines, but I don't know if that's game night Yeah, I think it could be there, but it's a gray area certainly not sure.

How about like bonus points. Okay. All right. Yeah physical game Sounds like arm wrestling Yeah, I feel like then you mentioned what are we doing?

Yeah, I mean bigger the better would we agree? Well, that's so big like you don't want to be in like like a haunted hotel. Are you sure? Oh, we toss in Ouija in a one I mean, that's yeah, I think I think then you bigger the better what do we think about?

DVD based trivia games bad like trivial pursuit. No, I those can get fucked. I agree I feel like I'm always worried that somebody's gonna sit on the remote and reset the whole game and it's gonna piss me off I got another one that's gonna make people mad exploding kittens toss it. I don't know what that that is I got another one that's gonna make people mad code names toss it.

Oh, you know like code names I kind of like I never had fun playing everyone loves it. I don't get why it's so good. Well, that's another one to me That's kind of easy. Mm-hmm.

It gets you know like it gets that treatment of like what's the game where you have to make up words? Uh not taboo is that Baldur Dash maybe dude. I don't that one. I'm not super privy to be honest I like well, I do like Baldur Dash come not I don't even know how to spell it.

I'm not gonna put it where we put where we put in my Majang. That's a one baby. Dang dude Majang shoot, it seems like we don't love game night that much because we don't hold a lot of good games No, no, we got no we got sorry. I got another two okay, cuz I like it, but I know it's boring.

It's gravel Yeah, Papa's grab a little too. That's always that's also one. That's like I don't know that one's tough because Yeah, I feel like if you fall behind and scrabble it feels impossible to come back and it does make you feel stupid when you're not good at it Yeah, I don't think you should feel bad about the a lack of threes We have here because a lot of our twos it just depends on the crew like I think that's the point of this rubric is that you're gonna See that the games are really secondary to everything else. Mm-hmm.

I would agree with that Can I give you a very quite little drunk quest to me? Oh, I love it. I love it so very much Um actually do you want to good and it's also like that's a murderer you get really fucking wasted in Oh, yeah, it always seems like it's just like a cuz most drinking games like board games are like have a sip You know, I mean and in drunk quest you could get points where you're like 50 sips Yeah, and it's it becomes as just fucking savage planet where it's just like oh, yeah, you just murk you got five drinks Um make it 45 drinks you don't get so mean and then you're like oh you're done with those drinks now give me your level like you just really Fuckin pillage a person blacked out and you're losing Yeah drunk by so tight other drinking games. I think our medium to me It's almost like not a game night, right and like so what about a night of like flip cup beer pong?

I don't think so drunk. I says different because even without the dream game. It's a car Yeah, it would be a game good. These are good.

I feel like we need more for crew I feel like every episode we do is the same thing dog is it too, right? Yeah dogs are too cuz it's just like and but you know what's a one and this is not a personal preference thing Yeah, is a cat because cat is gonna walk on the board. It's yeah, it's undeniable Oh, well for okay So if we're gonna do host and venue and we are gonna incorporate some snacks into there I like especially if I'm the host I don't want any of the the greasy finger snacks. Don't yeah, have a Dorito I love a Dorito, but please you're touching all my cards.

Maybe like yeah, yeah, that means no bullet Mm-M's either no NEMM's are fine. You are just a baby your fingers They the candy coating once they sit in the bowl for long enough they get warm it rubs off on your face I guess that's a big fact. Yeah, all right whatever so so is the juice worth the squeeze is an M2 I just think grubby I'm just gonna put grubby thingy snacks in here and I think everyone's like here's a thing What's it what's a snack that's not a grubby thingy snack? Yeah, it's tough because well, okay How about this this goes for itinerary to I don't want to be eating something with a fork and knife at the table where I'm playing my game No, so pretzels is a standby for me pretzels is a little okay pretzels good one.

Yeah isn't elite snack How about shit on toothpicks, right? Oh toothpick snacks. Yes, dude. Good one, right?

This is like a past-apps situation Yeah, I have I have a medium for itinerary pizza break. I feel like pizza break is very common at game nights I love it. It's really good, but also pizza is like now number one my hands are all greasy So I gotta wash up number two I do feel like a pizza break can really take the wind out of the sails for a game night The thing about that is like let it happen who cares? I'm up to meet pizza break is a three really because if it takes the wind out of the sails, so be it It's pizza time game nights cancel this pizza night boy.

I just can't I just that bums me out when I've got all my shit set up It's better than eating while you play because then you got the grubby thingies right? But the problem is that pizza break I feel like it's not like pizza break transitions to something else to me Sometimes pizza breaks and signals the end of game night and the end of us all hanging out And that's what you would like to reward everybody for making it through game night with pizza break So your game night starts at about three thirty p.m No, no, no, no I'm just saying that pizza break is not perfect like you say I want it to be ideally we have a middle pizza break and it doesn't throw Off the flow and we get right back to it. I have an issue with pizza break though, and it's a personal thing But baby, I can't stop eating that pizza. I'll have right nine ten eleven slices No, that's exactly what I'm saying is like you can like then now I've been sitting on your floor for an hour And it was already uncomfortable now.

I'm full of fucking five slices of pizza that it's done. We're on laying down We're I'm horizontal. Uh-huh. What do we think itinerary for going out after is that great?

I love I love it. Okay, unless you're playing drunk class in which case you're in for the night Yeah, it's that is it you put you in the grave going out after I do I think I'm game nights kind of an appetizer to that's a long long Appetizer, you know, I mean yeah, I do it is a bummer kind of when it just when you I don't want to play game I don't want to do game night until like one in the morning and I have done that before and it's been okay But like it could be so exhausting But you know what yeah, that's the thing going out after my to get to because sometimes you get there and you realize you just push Yourself to be out But you didn't even want to because you're done and now you're out and you're like oh I was I agree I agree with that because it's like you're like let's keep this party going But it's such a different energy game night to like dive bar or like club or something Hopefully you're going out walking distance from where you are you know what you're you're gonna walk to the local bar You're not getting an uber drive. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no god damn way I'm going to the west side for hot pot in this situation right your favorite move. Yes going out after is a two Okay, good.

I agree with that host and venue. I want to jump down background noise. I need it Do you do we have TV? I think is bad TV is bad because it distracts people music?

Okay? Just pop me some of them danky sweaty jams all night. Let's get wild in here. Okay.

I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give very pretty good well Let me talk about it music very pretty good only because you ever fuck around it Like if you're playing like a theme game you're fuck around and get thematically appropriate music because that really gets me moving Am I downstairs? Okay, look, I know earlier. I said I hate monopoly. Okay, what but I do have a Beatles monopoly Like a ooh, right?

It was fun to listen to the Beatles while you did that. Yeah, you know what? I just realized I like a lot of monopoly themes. I think yeah LA theme monopoly, which I love like the most expensive ones Dodger Stadium.

Oh, yeah, that's cool. Oh, no. Oh, no Monopoly it too. I tried to make that case and you shut it down brother I just I also don't think we ever finish that any of those games though.

Yeah, it's not it's a one Let's not let's not let so like a finished game of monopolies a one I think if you're all willing to just bail when you're sick of it is no that's bullshit because that's nothing That's not you can't I also think that's a whole that's a whole culture that was like people start But not like most people don't finish monopoly. I hate that so you just are in the middle of a game Not you're like fuck this. We're gonna play sorry now close this shit up That's what maybe that's what you do last so that when you're finally sick of it Then you go to a bar. Oh, I have to give you a bad host Okay, and it seems wrong, but I have a lot of experience in this territory a game store.

Okay. It's dreadful buddy Yeah, yes, it's and I used to freak out those guys. It's full of takes it too Oh my god and the the and I'm sorry. We don't like to yuck anybody's yummy We don't like to really bash people but the stink on it on a game store gamer Thick baby, it is thick and it's palpable.

You get slice it. Yeah, you walk in it's in your eyes Oh, yeah, not not good game store big big big no no for me. Mm-hmm Where do we put it? I know I just never talk about games more But what about a dice game like a yet see like a liars dice?

Oh, I fucking hate liars dice Okay, I do think we need more for I do think we need more for crew. I think that's where we need to be focusing our Okay, I'll toss one in a one gets drunk or faster than everyone guy Do you drive too fast to your face? I mean, that's never gonna be anything but a one yeah unless you're doing like drinking competitions And even that no, that's a big one. Yeah, no, that's a bad one.

Okay. How about this guy who shows up with I'm sorry I keep saying guy personally shows up with Unique snack kind of the same thing as the board game, but this one's gonna be a hit yeah Oh, you never had chicken a biscuit before yeah, cuz that's me a lot because a lot of people haven't had chicken a biscuit Right well, or I like to I like to get whatever whenever dank shits near my apartment whenever I get invited to there's this place Yeah, what do you bring in a game night? Well, okay? So if I got invited to a game night right now this moment Mm-hmm number one I'm bringing a booze I feel like I'm bringing some beer or I'm bringing a wine or whatever whatever the flavor of the night is easy PZ and then there is this place that sells that's like famous and it sells bean pies near me and oh Pies Yes, you tell me snacks that people have never had before which chicken a biscuit level up I know I like it.

I like it. I like it. I'm in my story quick shot to this guy We do in college who'd show up to parties. I'm pretty sure we talked about before with right a bag just full of Jack-in-the-box tacos Yeah, it's like it's an undefeated move.

How about this one or two people for crew that you don't know that well? Mmm is that medium? Yeah, that's it too. That's a two because it's very dicey I just think that I loved is I think that's the best.

Are they fun Right, but isn't that the best way to get to know somebody because to me if I have a game night? Yeah, I'm either gonna fall in love or I'm gonna identify like cool. I never want to hang out with this person again Right, what kind of crew size we going with we haven't talked about that this is this is highly dependent on the game Because a lot of games, you know, I mean well, I think that there's an idea. Yes, of course, but I for minimum What do you think about that for minimum?

I'm gonna shoot three to five. How do you feel? It's three too little well, there's so just for example secret Hitler it goes up to ten people and it's much more fun When there's ten people playing right right okay, so three is a little it's yeah It's a little intimate. It's a little intimate.

It's a little intimate So maybe four to like six or seven. Yeah, four to seven. I'll take four to seven. That's nice Yeah, I know what do we think about no odd numbers because a lot of games that fucks things up Well, I think you just have to plan ahead right like there's I think that there's plenty of games like secret Hitler like drunk Quest that an odd number doesn't fucking anything.

Mm-hmm jackbox. Don't care about any type of numbers Well jackbox is an illegal. It's fucking own. Yeah, is jackbox a bonus point?

Yeah, yeah Jackbox maybe gonna be the first and only it's on the rubric and it's a bonus point Yeah, I think it has to be cuz Jackbox just too pure for this world. Yeah too very very good This is a good one because this is an applicable one because game night as we said First thing that people could actually use in their lives. Yeah agreed and I would suggest it if you have a game Night, please let us know how it compares to our very correct rubric. I will say I don't know if you feel this way Maybe this is just me, but I do have a lot of I feel like I have a grip of memorable game nights Mmm, I suppose I I more than I would expect like to me a game night is like a throwaway night sometimes I'm just like oh, yeah, let's do a game night But I do have a couple where I'm just like oh I remember learning to play this game for the first time and then really fucking loving it Hi, well fuck dude.

Yeah, shout out to Adam Fay for the art Shout out to bad Todd for the music and for hosting a couple of dank game nights He has a perfect pad for it because he's a huge table their apartment is gigantic for San Francisco They also have a sneaky ping pong table if things get a little bit spicy. I do love a sneaky ping pong Late entry games very quite late sneaky ping pong gotta be does it count? I just don't understand what council what doesn't. Oh fuck.

Okay. Shit. I have something I really want to add and I now We've already moved to the end of the podcast. I feel like I can't it's too late go on okay First of all some keeping pong will be yeah, I like that.

I like singing okay. How about a metagame where is it? What do you mean? Okay?

This is gonna be I'm gonna give you an example and then this is kind of it but like Mike and I were doing this thing Mike the bike shout out friend of the pod Mike the bike um where we made this giant dice were you there for any of this? Oh Bro, that was good. I remember that giant die. We called it the pube cube, which was bad Obviously cube dude.

I forgot about pube cube put it in bonus points Yeah, because the whole thing with pube you use it at us we called it We have like a scientific time for you cube cube. Oh, bro. Pube was money It was like a meta it was like a it was like a supplement a game night supplement where yeah every 15 minutes of time We'd go off and you would roll this giant die and it just had an instructions on it And sometimes it was something fun and sometimes it was like Sometimes it was like give give me five dollars I don't see what's dumb about that. Oh, bro.

I love pube cube. Yeah, okay, all right So this one we're gonna leave you on is just go out and find your own pube cube I think is what we're trying to say yes always what what cities we're up in well We're gonna rep another city today and it's a city that on top of it's already dominating run decide to put down another huge run of numbers Portland Oregon where you guys at are you kidding me damn dude? You were already so far in first place and then you just went on another little spree I don't know what we've done to deserve this But we love you pork town if we ever become popular enough and have the means to do a live show put it in the books right now The live show number one got to be in PDX. Thanks for the support you will nasty little freaks We love you all yeah Hell yeah, don't forget to leave a five-star review don't forget to follow us on all the social medias the Jesse Oh, I'm glad to live JW guide Pete the blog might have a might have something some new content dropping you know no Yeah, maybe we'll all keep you posted on it.

It's unlikely Highly unlikely. Yeah, thanks be good and have fun at your game nights Yeah, and don't forget to consume one another and consume one another try not it's kind of like a button to go at the end of every episode Oh, you want to do that the end of every episode a little bit of a sting or like hey everyone don't forget to like how Bob Barcris used to do like no, I know what I know what it is. I know you're doing yeah I don't agree with the choice, but I know what you're doing alright cool So let's try it again from the top okay ready and go and don't forget everyone to consume one another on the second