Garden of Thought E.275 Disclosures

Les Durrant joins us in the Garden to discuss UFOs. We discuss the blurring of the former lines between UFOology and religious paranormal. Les reveals he has an innate ability to summons UFOs using something akin to telepathy. We talk about different alien races. This is all during a time when there is a hot civil war within the UFO community. He also took me (and you) through actual documents from the Reagan Presidential Library, NATO, and various public government .gov and .mil addresses to review records verifying programs and patents and other information about items like teleportation, mind control, triangle and diamond shaped vessels, etc. Even Johns Hopkins University's site has such information. It was quite revelatory. The listener gets to follow along with me as Les guides me to certain sites and we review some of the startling contents.Les has been involved with MUFON, recently hosted a UFO conference, and has appeared on multiple episodes of the docu-series "Encounters: The Complete Interviews".