EPISODE · Jul 2, 2025 · 1H 10M
Gregor Gimmy: Pioneer of the Venture Client Model
from Scouting for Growth · host Sabine VdL
On this episode of the Scouting For Growth podcast, Sabine VdL talks to Gregor Gimmy, founder of 27pilots, a company dedicated to helping companies build and scale Venture Client units, and allows them to benefit from startup innovations faster at a large scale and significantly lower cost and risk than traditional corporate venturing methods. On this episode we will explore how this Venture Client model is shaping corporate innovation, the strategic benefits it offers, and how companies can adopt this game-changing approach to stay ahead in a competitive world. KEY TAKEAWAYS When I joined BMW in 2012, I was surprised to find that it was leveraging only a small number of startups to improve its technology landscape across its value chain. I told them that CVCs were investing in 2.8 startups per year. This is not nearly enough to solve all the technology challenges we have; we need more like 100. My initial idea was not to invent a new model but to improve the current one. I was told that if they invested in 50 startups per year, they would have around 250 startups in 5 years, whose equity state we would have to manage, which is impossible. I concluded that VC isn’t scalable, but it didn’t solve BMW's problem either: accessing, adopting, and transferring cutting-edge technology quickly, because it’s about investment, not technology transfer. These are two totally different business processes. We needed to look for a new approach: becoming a Venture Client. Accelerators and CVCs are indirect models – like using a third party’s battery technology in the cars you produce – you first make the investment and then adopt the technology. The difference in the Venture Client model is cutting out the middleman. If you want to be good at somethin,g you need a dedicated unit. If you do it part-time, it will only work partly. If you make it a department, you can dedicate more time to it, secure a dedicated budget, and build a more robust KPI structure. BEST MOMENTS ‘More than getting into the world of Venture Client Modelling, I invented the world.’ ‘A Venture Client is a company that adopts startup technologies through procurement and M&A.’ ‘A corporation cannot compete against a good startup like Palantir or Oracle when they were startups.’ ‘The Venture Client model will displace Corporate Venture Capital to become the standard of corporate venturing.’ ABOUT THE GUEST As captain of the 27pilots endeavour, and the visionary behind the Venture Client model, Gregor GImmy focuses on advancing Venture Client knowledge and growing the global community through 27pilots’ corporate clients and academic allies. Gregor is deeply engaged in researching, publishing, and lecturing on the Venture Client model through leading business schools and top business engagements. Gregor is also a frequent speaker at startup-relevant conferences such as Slush, Web Summit, 4YFN, and DLD. ABOUT THE HOST Sabine VanderLinden is a corporate strategist turned entrepreneur and the CEO of Alchemy Crew Ventures. She leads venture-client labs that help Fortune 500 companies adopt and scale cutting-edge technologies from global tech ventures. A builder of accelerators, investor, and co-editor of the bestseller The INSURTECH Book, Sabine is known for asking the uncomfortable questions—about AI governance, risk, and trust. On Scouting for Growth, she decodes how real growth happens—where capital, collaboration, and courage meet. If this episode sparked your thinking, follow Sabine VanderLinden on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram for more insights. And if you’re interested in sponsoring the podcast, reach out to the team at [email protected]
What this episode covers
On this episode of Scouting For Growth, Sabine VdL sits down with Gregor Gimmy, founder of 27pilots and the visionary behind the Venture Client Model — the approach that’s rapidly redefining corporate innovation by helping enterprises adopt startup technology faster, at scale, and at significantly lower cost and risk than traditional venture capital. If you’ve ever watched a corporate innovation program move at the speed of a committee meeting… this episode is your escape route. The BMW wake-up call: CVC can’t scale to what corporates actually need Gregor takes us back to 2012, when he joined BMW and realised something shocking: despite the scale of BMW’s technology needs across the value chain, the company was only leveraging a small number of startups. He points out that Corporate Venture Capital funds typically invest in an average of 2.8 startups per year. That’s fine if your job is to invest. It’s useless if your job is to modernise a global business. Gregor’s argument was simple: if a company wants to solve real technology challenges, it doesn’t need three startups. It needs closer to a hundred. Investment ≠ technology transfer The breakthrough insight is one every executive should write on a whiteboard: VC is not a technology transfer process. It’s an investment process. BMW was told that investing in 50 startups per year would create a portfolio nightmare: within five years, they’d be managing equity stakes in 250 startups. Not scalable. Not realistic. And not aligned with the goal of rapid technology adoption. That’s when Gregor realised the core problem: CVC isn’t built to help corporations access and adopt cutting-edge tech at operational speed. It’s built to make bets. The Venture Client Model: cut out the middleman Gregor compares accelerators and CVC models to something indirect: like using someone else’s battery technology — but only after you’ve invested first. The Venture Client approach cuts through that logic. Instead of investing first and hoping adoption follows, a Venture Client simply buys the technology — directly, early, and intentionally — through procurement (and sometimes M&A when appropriate). It’s corporate innovation with one defining feature: value now, not maybe later. Why venture clienting needs a dedicated unit (not a side hustle) Gregor also makes a leadership point that hits hard: if you want to be good at something, you need a dedicated unit. Innovation can’t live as a part-time hobby inside procurement, strategy, or IT. When it becomes a formal department, it gains: dedicated time dedicated budget measurable KPIs operational muscle to scale adoption That’s when it stops being “innovation theatre” and becomes a repeatable capability. A reality check: corporates don’t outbuild great startups Gregor delivers another truth that enterprise leaders often avoid saying out loud: A corporation can’t compete against a great startup when that startup is at its peak velocity — think Palantir or Oracle in their early days. The advantage corporates do have is distribution, customers, and scale. So the smartest move isn’t trying to out-startup the startups. It’s adopting the best startup tech faster than your competitors can. Why this episode matters For executives in insurance, banking, automotive, and beyond, this episode is a strategic roadmap for modern innovation: scale matters more than individual bets adoption beats investment procurement can be an innovation engine dedicated venture client units drive repeatable outcomes the fastest path to transformation is often partnership, not invention Gregor’s bold claim is clear: the Venture Client Model won’t just complement Corporate VC. It will replace it as the default standard of corporate venturing. And after this episode, it’s hard to argue otherwise.
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