Hassabis’s AI Watchdog, Mira Murati’s Free Model, and Anthropic’s Doom Ad | EP109 episode artwork

EPISODE · Jul 17, 2026 · 35 MIN

Hassabis’s AI Watchdog, Mira Murati’s Free Model, and Anthropic’s Doom Ad | EP109

from The AI Argument · host Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery

Can anyone actually regulate powerful AI before the technology gets away from them? Demis Hassabis thinks the US needs an independent body to test frontier AI models before release. Frank thinks that sounds sensible. Justin thinks Google might simply be trying to slow everyone else down.Plus: Mira Murati gives away an enormous AI model that companies can fine-tune themselves. Kimi K3 suggests China’s not as far behind as the US believed, and OpenAI and Anthropic’s business models start looking slightly uncomfortable. Meanwhile, Anthropic decides the best way to market AI is with burning houses, riots and mass graves… cheerful stuff.00:40 Why is Mira Murati's AI model free?03:19 Is fine-tuning AI worth the hassle?05:59 Should AI reflect us, not replace us?08:12 Are OpenAI and Anthropic actually screwed?11:16 Is Kimi K3 the new DeepSeek moment?12:54 Did Kimi prove compute isn’t everything?15:58 Should China’s models be the regulatory benchmark?20:42 Is Demis Hassabis right about AI regulation?27:29 Is Google trying to regulate its way ahead?30:03 Did Anthropic make an ad for the apocalypse?► SUBSCRIBEDon't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDThe Future Worth Building Is HumanInkling: Our open-weights modelDecoded: What is Kimi K3, an open AI model challenging OpenAI and AnthropicA Framework for Frontier AI and the Dawning of a New AgeThere’s hope in hard questions► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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