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EPISODE · Sep 29, 2025 · 41 MIN

Hearing God Beyond the Church - Andy and Mel Owen

from God Conversations with Tania Harris · host Tania Harris

We know that God speaks to his people, but does God speak to those who don’t even know his name? Evidence would suggest the answer is yes - both in biblical history and contemporary life! God speaks to those who are listening - even those who don’t believe in him!On this episode, we are talking with Andy and Melanie Owen. Andy is the senior pastor of a thriving church in Lucern, Switzerland. You’ll love the wisdom and insights of Andy and Melanie’s journeys.You’ll hear about:Andy’s journey into wholeness after a troubled and abusive upbringing. Andy shares how both counselling and deliverance worked together to heal his life and develop his relationship with God.Melanie’s breathtaking story of seeing a vision of Jesus the night her mother passed away. On the same night, her Aunt received the same message. Mel was not a Christian at the time and the experience marked a changing point in her life.Andy’s God conversations about his marriage to Melanie that deeply tested his heart for God. It was a difficult journey of learning to trust God with his whole heart.Biblical examples of those who heard God’s voice even when they worshipped different gods. Think of the Egyptian Pharaoh in Joseph’ time and Saul the terrorist who experienced a vision of Jesus on the Damascus Road. There is no barrier to divine communication!God Conversations beyond the church - Andy shows how these reflect the “Missio Dei” - the mission of God - whose heart is to “seek and save those who are lost” (Luke 19:10). This understanding further orientates the way we share our faith. Rather than trying to force a message no-one is listening to, we look for what the Spirit is already doing in someone’s life and then actively partner with God in their journey.The difference it makes when the “veil is lifted” and we see the character of God more clearly in Jesus.The difference between New Age and Christian spirituality. Melanie shares the story of their neighbour - a medium - who saw a large energy field around their lives but didn’t want to participate in it. The Spirit speaks to transform us from the inside out which means hearing God say things we don’t necessarily want to hear!Next StepsJoin the journey to hearing God’s voice. Start your free 7-day ⁠God Conversations devotional ⁠today!Pray, promote and give. God Conversations is donor-funded and made possible through the generosity of people like you! ⁠Become a partner today⁠.Equip your church to hear God’s voice. ⁠Join our community of ministry leaders⁠ for monthly insights and a free preview of 50 Days of God Conversations resource.About Andy and Melanie OwenAndy Owen is a trained IT specialist who holds a Master of Science in Psychology from Lee University and a Bachelor of Arts in Practical Theology from the European Theological Seminary. He is an ordained pastor with the Swiss Pentecostal Mission (SPM) and has been leading Zollhaus Church in Lucerne, Switzerland since 2019. Andy is married to Melanie and together they have four children. 

We know that God speaks to his people, but does God speak to those who don’t even know his name? Evidence would suggest the answer is yes - both in biblical history and contemporary life! God speaks to those who are listening - even those who don’t believe in him!On this episode, we are talking with Andy and Melanie Owen. Andy is the senior pastor of a thriving church in Lucern, Switzerland. You’ll love the wisdom and insights of Andy and Melanie’s journeys.You’ll hear about:Andy’s journey into wholeness after a troubled and abusive upbringing. Andy shares how both counselling and deliverance worked together to heal his life and develop his relationship with God.Melanie’s breathtaking story of seeing a vision of Jesus the night her mother passed away. On the same night, her Aunt received the same message. Mel was not a Christian at the time and the experience marked a changing point in her life.Andy’s God conversations about his marriage to Melanie that deeply tested his heart for God. It was a difficult journey of learning to trust God with his whole heart.Biblical examples of those who heard God’s voice even when they worshipped different gods. Think of the Egyptian Pharaoh in Joseph’ time and Saul the terrorist who experienced a vision of Jesus on the Damascus Road. There is no barrier to divine communication!God Conversations beyond the church - Andy shows how these reflect the “Missio Dei” - the mission of God - whose heart is to “seek and save those who are lost” (Luke 19:10). This understanding further orientates the way we share our faith. Rather than trying to force a message no-one is listening to, we look for what the Spirit is already doing in someone’s life and then actively partner with God in their journey.The difference it makes when the “veil is lifted” and we see the character of God more clearly in Jesus.The difference between New Age and Christian spirituality. Melanie shares the story of their neighbour - a medium - who saw a large energy field around their lives but didn’t want to participate in it. The Spirit speaks to transform us from the inside out which means hearing God say things we don’t necessarily want to hear!Next StepsJoin the journey to hearing God’s voice. Start your free 7-day ⁠God Conversations devotional ⁠today!Pray, promote and give. God Conversations is donor-funded and made possible through the generosity of people like you! ⁠Become a partner today⁠.Equip your church to hear God’s voice. ⁠Join our community of ministry leaders⁠ for monthly insights and a free preview of 50 Days of God Conversations resource.About Andy and Melanie OwenAndy Owen is a trained IT specialist who holds a Master of Science in Psychology from Lee University and a Bachelor of Arts in Practical Theology from the European Theological Seminary. He is an ordained pastor with the Swiss Pentecostal Mission (SPM) and has been leading Zollhaus Church in Lucerne, Switzerland since 2019. Andy is married to Melanie and together they have four children.

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