EPISODE · Feb 24, 2026 · 43 MIN
He’s Not Immature, He’s Abusive: Why Narcissists Don’t “Grow Out of It” with Dr. Les Carter | S3E08
from Real Talk with Lisa Sonni: Relationships Uncensored · host Lisa Sonni
Send Lisa a question for her to reply in a future episode!Most women don’t stay because they’re naïve.They stay because they believe he’s just immature.He’s still growing. He’ll change. He just needs insight.But what if he understands exactly what he’s doing?Lisa sits down with Dr. Les Carter of Surviving Narcissism to dismantle one of the most dangerous myths survivors cling to: that abusiveness is just immaturity. They unpack the difference between someone who lacks skills and someone who lacks conscience, the role of power, the allergy to accountability, and the DARVO spiral. You know that smugness that shows up when they’ve successfully baited you into reacting? Dr. Carter explains why true maturity requires self-examination, and why narcissistic individuals rarely sustain change. Insight isn’t the same as transformation. Window dressing isn’t growth. If you’ve spent years explaining, rationalizing, and over-functioning in hopes he’d finally “get it,” this conversation may be the clarity you’ve been avoiding (and the freedom you’ve needed).Support the showThis is the podcast they don't want you listening to.👉 Find me at lisasonni.com Book A Session with LisaJoin my online survivor community called She Rises Collective where we are breaking free, rebuilding and dismantling patriarchy. Follow on IGWatch on YouTubeGet My Books HereNew episodes drop every Tuesday.Subscribe, share it with someone who needs the truth - and remember:You’re stronger than they ever wanted you to believe.
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Send Lisa a question for her to reply in a future episode! Most women don’t stay because they’re naïve. They stay because they believe he’s just immature. He’s still growing. He’ll change. He just needs insight. But what if he understands exactly what he’s doing? Lisa sits down with Dr. Les Carter of Surviving Narcissism to dismantle one of the most dangerous myths survivors cling to: that abusiveness is just immaturity. They unpack the difference between someone who lacks skills and someo...
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