EPISODE · Oct 21, 2025 · 57 MIN
High Priests of Medicine - Has Healthcare Become Its Own Religion? | Ep1
from Healing People, Not Patients · host Dr. Elisha Waldman, Dr. Jonathan Weinkle
What if medicine has become a religion, and what does that mean for physicians and patients?In the premiere episode of Healing People, Not Patients, Dr. Elisha Waldman, joins Dr. Jonathan Weinkle to discuss how medicine mirrors religious systems with its temples, hierarchies, and rituals. Drawing from his book This Narrow Space and his diverse experiences in the US, Israel, and the UK, Dr. Waldman unpacks the values and pitfalls of this structure. He shares how rituals like handwashing or structured diagnoses can ground providers but also risk disconnecting them from patients’ deeper hopes, fears, and values. Through stories of his palliative care work, he offers a path to expand the “narrow space” of illness, fostering connection and meaning.This episode is a must-listen for physicians seeking to bring soul back into their practice.Top 3 Takeaways:Medicine as a Religious System: Dr. Waldman compares medicine’s hierarchies, sacred spaces, and rituals—like handwashing or differential diagnoses—to religious practices, offering security but sometimes limiting deeper patient connection.Expanding the Narrow Space: In palliative care, Dr. Waldman focuses on patients’ hopes, fears, and values, creating space for meaningful conversations that guide care, rather than rushing to fix or flee from discomfort.Spirituality in Healthcare: Through the Interprofessional Spiritual Care Education Curriculum, clinicians learn to engage with patients’ spiritual needs, moving beyond demographics to foster wholehearted practice.About the GuestDr. Elisha Waldman is a pediatric palliative care doctor and oncologist at Great Ormond Street Hospital, London. With a BA in religious studies, he sees medicine as a religion with rituals and hierarchies. Author of This Narrow Space (2019), he draws from experiences in the US, Israel, and UK to explore healthcare’s human side. As faculty for the George Washington Institute’s Interprofessional Spiritual Care Education Curriculum, he trains clinicians to engage patients’ hopes, fears, and values, fostering meaningful care.Connect with Dr. Elisha Waldman:Email: [email protected]@gmail.comAbout the ShowHealing People, Not Patients explores ways to enhance medical practice by infusing it with compassion, humanity, and a deeper sense of purpose, aiming to help healthcare professionals rediscover the "soul" of their work. Framed around the four questions of the Passover Seder, it probes how to transform medicine for the better, promoting an empathetic and supportive approach that empowers patients to create meaningful, sober lives, while drawing on Jewish teachings about community and friendship.Our theme song, "Room for the Soul," is available on Bandcamp at https://jonathanweinkle.bandcamp.com/track/room-for-the-soul.About the HostDr. Jonathan Weinkle is an internist and pediatrician who practices primary care at a community health center in Pittsburgh. He strives to be a "nice Jewish doctor" focused on patient-centered healthcare, emphasizing effective communication and holistic well-being.He teaches the courses, “Death and the Healthcare Professions” and “Healing and Humanity” at the University of Pittsburgh, authored the books Healing People, Not Patients and Illness to Exodus, and runs ‘Healers Who Listen’, where he blogs on healing and Jewish tradition. Once an aspiring rabbi, he now integrates faith and medicine to support other physicians and his own patients.🌐 Website: healerswholisten.com🔗 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jonathan-weinkle-3440032a📸 Instagram: @HealersWhoListen📘 Facebook: @JonathanWeinkle The Healing People, Not Patients Podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute medical, legal, or professional advice. Always consult qualified professionals regarding your personal or organizational decisions. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Join host Dr. Jonathan Weinkle and guest Dr. Elisha Waldman on this debut episode of Healing People, Not Patients as they explore medicine as a modern religion, complete with rituals, hierarchies, and sacred spaces. Discover how embracing spirituality and human connection can transform healthcare and help physicians rediscover purpose in their practice.
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