Hiring Without The Headache w/ Ashley Pack :: Ep 286 The Mostly Middle Tennessee Business Podcast

In this episode of the Mostly Middle Tennessee Business Podcast, Jim McCarthy sits down with HR and recruiting pro Ashley Pack, founder of Four Point People, to talk about how small and mid-sized businesses can finally fix their hiring, retention, and culture problems.Ashley shares how she went from teaching to transportation to making 200 cold calls a day during the pandemic, then into payroll and now running a recruiting and fractional HR firm focused on blue collar and trades. She explains why so many owners struggle to keep good people, what they’re doing wrong in interviews and onboarding, and how a few simple systems can completely change the way your team performs.If you’re a business owner tired of bad hires, high turnover, or culture drama, this conversation will hit home.Timed highlights01:01 Welcome back Ashley Pack and the origin of Four Point People06:19 From teaching and transportation to recruiting bus drivers10:47 Making 200 cold calls a day with Aflac during the pandemic17:57 Growing up around a homebuilding business and payroll21:25 What Four Point People actually does for business owners21:55 The real hiring problem most owners don’t see27:25 Catholic guilt, reading people, and in-person interviews32:03 The questions candidates should always ask employers43:21 Why owners can’t expect employees to care like they do52:26 How to fire fairly: warnings, documentation, and communication1:03:00 Why trades and blue collar businesses need HR help most1:14:34 TikTok, BS detectors, and reading personalities1:19:36 Affiliate program and where to find Four Point People onlineFor more episodes → MMTBP.com Guests website → https://fourpointpeople.com/Studio → https://www.itsyourshow.co/