How a deck of cards gets you unstuck, with Juliette Modolo

If you’re leading at full tilt, pouring yourself into the next plan for the business, and you’ve reached the point where you’re running close to empty and not sure where to start again, this episode is for you.It’s a different way to grow and to lead yourself: coaching, with a deck of tarot cards as the tool. It works because it lets you set the ego aside for a few minutes. Juliette describes it as a treat, like a massage for the brain, and you come away with more clarity and a bit of inspiration. I’ve started calling it a spa treatment for the mind.We get into what tarot actually is, and why it’s more grounded than its reputation: a spread of printed cards that helps you step out of your own story and reflect on the question you brought. She doesn’t read the future, and there’s nothing supernatural about it. I share how it’s helped me get unstuck this year, and why I think it can do the same for other leaders.You’ll also sit in on a live two-card reading, with a one-minute meditation you can follow, and watch how Juliette builds trust and holds the moment, so you get a real feel for how the method works. You come away with a clearer sense of how you lead, and a practical way to find a fresh perspective on a stuck problem, at work or outside it, so you can show up better for your team.Juliette Modolo is a market research leader I met at GWI, a coach qualified at Cambridge last year, now researching tarot as a coaching tool. Seen Differently began this summer, in 2026, from a simple urge to take a breather and look at us and work differently.Takeaways1. A way to get unstuck that doesn’t ask you to think harder: a reflective tool that quietens the ego for a few minutes.2. A grounded, demystified picture of what tarot actually is as a coaching tool, so you can judge it for yourself.3. A 30-second practice you can do anywhere to get a fresh angle on a stuck problem: look up, let your eye land on something, and ask what it says about your question.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Seen Differently Podcast04:08 Juliette's Dual Life: Research and Tarot Coaching06:27 Understanding Client Needs: Overwhelm and Stuckness08:58 Researching Tarot as a Coaching Tool11:35 Debunking Myths: What Tarot Really Is15:46 The Structure of a Tarot Reading Session20:04 Exploring the Source of Frustration23:37 Gestalt Coaching: The Whole Person Approach27:58 Personal Experiences with Tarot Coaching33:25 Prioritising Personal Values in Leadership34:30 The Therapeutic Nature of Tarot35:44 Live Tarot Reading Experience50:21 Understanding Tarot as a Tool for Self-ReflectionLinksJuliette LinkedIn - ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/juliettemodolo⁠Juliette Website - ⁠https://jmodolocoaching.com⁠Thomas LinkedIn - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-voigt⁠Thomas Website - ⁠https://thecsconsulting.net⁠Thomas YouTube - Seen Differently - The Podcast with Thomas Voigt