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EPISODE · Jul 4, 2026 · 30 MIN

How to Bring Your Senior HR Judgement Into Client Conversations + Guest Kate Lawson

from Leap Into HR Consulting ® · host Sarah Hamilton-Gill FCIPD

In this episode of the Leap into HR Consulting® podcast, Sarah Hamilton-Gill explores one of the biggest shifts senior HR professionals make when they move into consulting: learning how to bring their commercial judgement forward with confidence. This is not about becoming someone different. It is not about becoming pushy, cold or overly salesy. It is about recognising that, as an experienced HR professional, you already have years of commercial insight built through advising leaders, managing risk, handling complex people issues, supporting change and helping organisations make better decisions. The challenge is often not that senior HR consultants lack commercial judgement. It is that they do not always make that judgement visible enough in client conversations. Sarah talks through how experienced HR consultants can move from being seen as an HR supplier to being trusted as a business adviser. She explores how great consultants diagnose before they prescribe, ask better questions, listen for the real issue beneath the client’s request, connect people challenges to business impact and give a clear point of view. The episode also looks at why your HR values are not a barrier to being commercial. In fact, they are often what make your advice stronger. Fairness, clarity, good leadership, trust, accountability and risk management all have a direct impact on business performance. Sarah also speaks with Kate Lawson, founder of tHRive Partnership, about her move from Head of People and Culture in an InsurTech start-up to launching her own HR consultancy. Kate shares how a restructure led her to rethink her career, why flexibility for her family became a key driver, and how she overcame doubts about whether she had enough experience to go it alone. They discuss the realities of early-stage consulting, including imposter syndrome, networking nerves, the power of community and the importance of getting involved. Kate also introduces her Thriving Foundations package, designed to help smaller SMEs put practical HR foundations in place. This is an honest and encouraging episode for senior HR professionals who are considering consulting and wondering whether now might be the right time to take the leap. To connect with Sarah on LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahhg/ To connect with Kate on LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-lawson06/ To find out more about our services : www.leapintoconsulting.com  

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