Do not fucking confuse confidence with ego. Ego is fucking in security. It is not confidence. Yeah!
You got your perspective. Yeah! Yeah! I'm going to be happy.
Don't you want to be happy? Gary, what's up, my man? Life is good, brother. It is good, isn't it?
Yeah. That's one of the fucking things that, you know, I've had the opportunity to get to know you not only in the professional context, but also just as a homie. And people always ask me, like, what's he like? What's he like?
And I have to say, man, you're fucking happy. Like there's no doubt about that. Yeah. You know, you were like one of the busiest and happiest people.
Like if you would turn the dials of both of those things up, a lot of times those things don't coincide, but for you they do. And I think the thing that I'm conscious of is off the screen, I'm real happy too, right? Like, you know, I think one thing that's really been interesting is as awareness around individual grows, a level of responsibility comes along with it. I'm definitely in a point right now where I'm really being thoughtful of like, look, there's a lot of eyes on me and a lot of people who are not happy are putting their eyes on me and I'm helping them through that.
And I need to be hyper sensitive in my own self of articulating things that I'm unhappy about. And but what's been really interesting is I've been really on this kick for six or nine months. I'm struggling to be unhappy because I've come to realize it's unbelievable how simple my life is. If I genuinely wake up in the morning and eight to ten people are actually still alive, I'm just struggling to be upset about stuff.
I don't know what else to say. I struggle with my perspective on life is very simple, which is it's such a blessing. It's so rare, you know, last time we were here, I made a video with you guys. And in there, I talked about the 400 trillion to one and that micro piece of content, which I've chopped up and used.
It's one of my most successful piece of content ever happened in this building a couple years ago. And I've really, I've always internalized it. I finally articulated it a couple years ago and I continue to internalize it, which is I am happy because I'd like to understand, I'd like somebody to sell me on what to be upset about. Well, it's a failure perspective when you're upset.
It's a failure of expensive. It really is. And if you can keep perspective like you are in line, you are happy. I'll tell you what's really emerged entitlement.
I was parented and really, and my circumstances put me in a place where I just don't think anybody owes me anything, not society, not the government, not people I do nice things for. That's a killer. People struggle so much when they do something nice for somebody, they think that person owes them something. I'm desperately trying to give more value to every person I ever crossed paths with and never ask for anything in return.
That is literally the framework of my life. My great hope is that I can bring more value to people than they bring to me and I'm never in a dire situation where I ever have to ask for anything in return. Well, you keep yourself in that abundance state, right? So you're not in need.
You're not desperate. You don't have the expectation. Oh, I'm giving this transactionally so that I receive this. And then when those expectations aren't met, then you have the hangover of that expectation, the sadness that comes from chasing that thrill of hoping to get something and then it failing.
Instead, if you just give and have the act of giving be the gift itself, like, oh, I helped this person. And I'm in that in a lot of ways. That's right. And then it's the same reason I'm an entrepreneur.
Being an entrepreneur is the win. And I believe we're living through a great era right now where people are looking for the money and the things you can buy with the money from entrepreneurship. And that is why I believe that in the next decade, there will be an enormous conversation of people being unhappy entrepreneurs during this generation because it is so in the air in your Instagram stream success and the perception of success. And I've really started to articulate something that feels really true to me, which is how do I, you know, I can only be responsible for myself.
I hope I encourage others. But how do I start making happiness the true North Star? Not money. I don't know what to say.
Like, not stuff. Yeah. Well, anything that you place outside of yourself for happiness is going to be a dead end street, right? Because that thing is something that you'll have to constantly chase.
That'll be the rabbit that keeps you on the Greyhound track, always running around. Oh, if it's money, well, then you're going to need more money when you get money and you're going to need more and more and more. You're going to have to keep feeding this thing rather than recognizing that happiness lives within us as soon as we acknowledge it. And for everybody who's watching right now, do not confuse this for a lack of ambition.
I'm ambitious as fuck. I just, you know, I just am really happy with the process. And I'm also super weirdly happy with losing. Because that's the process.
I lost to you in pool and in, what does that thing again? Sauce. Sauce. I beat you in free throws and darts.
I'm sitting here and I only want to play sauce and pool. And I think there's something in that, right? The Rangers, New York Rangers, and the Yankees have won world championships during my fandom. The Knicks and Jets have not.
I do not watch the Rangers and the Yankees anymore. I'm die hard on the other two. I'm in it for the process. Like I watched, I watched, I was at the airport, I told you, off camera, I took a red eye, which I'm trying not to do for my own body and like rest and all that, but I did and I was in San Francisco and the Warriors game is on.
And I actually just don't consume a lot of like stuff in general, but like I was watching this Warriors game and I grew up in the kind of like tech boom of 2005 through 11 and I'd go to San Francisco a lot. And when I tell you not one fucking human in San Francisco knew who the Warriors were in 2005 to 11, not one. And I'm watching this game, it's the end of the game and I'm watching these fans celebrate. And it was just this wild feeling going through my body of almost like a really funny mix of like, I don't know, I find it crazy when people become bandwagon fans and think that they're successful through their team success.
Yeah, they use the word we when they're talking about a pro team. Yeah. And I do that as well. So I don't want to be a hypocrite, but I'm literally talking about you don't like the team or care about it.
Then they start winning championships and you're going to games and then you're making fun of like hardcore Houston rocket fans. And I watch this plan on social and like in culture and I'm like, I don't know, I just I think a bandwagon sports fan is one of the great tells of somebody who's insecure. And it's just something that's always run through my mind literally when I think about the Bulls fans and the cowboy fans of my high school years in New Jersey when they were good. Just a lot of those bandwagon fans in my school are not happy when you attach your identity to some other thing.
And then that identity makes you good whether or not that thing is successful or not. So if your identity is a sports fan of X team and you only feel good about yourself when X team is there because it's like you had some fucking insight that made you smarter or made you better or made you something that your ego can latch onto is like I am superior to something else. And if you're in it for that, well, you might get a thrill every once in a while, but you're going to have a lot of fucking heartbreak rather than being in it as you were saying, being in it for just being a fan, whether you're winning or losing the joy of being a fan is being a fan, not the fucking win. It's crazy while you were just talking where my mind went.
It went to people's social media profiles versus their actual truth. I am petrified that everybody is a PR version of themselves on social and that it's now a thing, like a sports team. No. It was really interesting where my mind just went.
Well, those likes and those followers and that stuff like you really meditate on that. I mean, the amount that you get out of that, the dopamine validation, people are not posting because they're petrified for it not to hit the metric of their prior post. Like literally humans are not sharing stuff with other humans, which is like the core thing of why this all worked, because they're worried that this picture of this coconut shake is not going to do as well as the picture of them hiking. And so they're literally not posting.
I mean, to live a life predicated on your success and happiness is predicated on likes or followers in a social network is a very vulnerable state, but has always been our vulnerable state. Do not confuse this. This is not a social media problem. It's the same reason that people buy Mercedes that they can't afford or buy homes that they can't afford or wear sneakers that they can't afford or I mean, high school never really ends for 99% of people.
Well, that was that initial tribal impulse, that evolutionary biology that said, get along with the tribe, make sure the tribe likes you, you won't get exiled and then the tribe will take care of you. But now there's no actual tribe that's hunting for food and for fucking berries, but we've universalized it to social media and the entirety of the world. So it can become this paralyzing thing that our brains, which were used to the Dunbar number, which was 150 people, the maximum amount of people that you could actually give a shit about in your tribe really is what the psychologist assumed, but now it's like everybody and that's kind of fucking overwhelming and I don't think we've really adapted and I don't think people are really keen to how much of that social pressure actually affects us. And the modern day parent is blaming the network, not the way they're parenting their child.
Right. With extraordinary forces. I want to stay on this. I apologize.
This is a very big thing for me. There is no social network. It's a platform. Everything on Instagram was done by a human.
People like Gary, I'm so crippled by this bullshit and I'm like, delete Instagram. I'm really, really passionate about accountability. We need to put it in the right place. We don't need to look the other way where there's systematic issues.
There are. But we have to put accountability out of pedestal. Back to lack of entitlement, accountability, much of a kiss and cousin of lack of entitlement is such a driver for me. Every time something happens bad, I'm like, that's my fault.
And that makes me happy. Not sad. It makes me feel empowered. Yeah.
I think with what we have to recognize is this is an extraordinary force. The access to social media is an extraordinary force. It doesn't mean it's good or bad. It's just a force that exists.
So when you have a force that exists like that, it's a job of parents. It's a job of me and you. It's a job of everybody's talking about it. I believe that is absolutely true and I believe that we struggle when new things happen in our society to fully wrap our heads around them.
The internet is the biggest impact on humans. You have to assume I'm just, you know, fire. Like I'm talking like on a real level here, like the internet. We are all super lucky.
I think about how long humans have actually been around, like the airplane seems pretty intense. There's a ton of shit that has happened, right? Like electricity, like the printing press. But like it's on that level.
There's a lot of people who, right? Yeah. But there's a lot of people who don't live, you know, I'm looking at this room, everybody kind of in an age group where like we are living through the beginning of the platform that arguably is one of the one to five biggest inventions and impacts on humans ever. And so that's intense.
It just is. Like in some ways, certain generations had world wars and other things. Ours is this incredible acceleration of technology and look, this may seem mundane for somebody who's watching this in a thousand years because the robots took over and like there's just a million things that could happen. But we were in a very special time and right now we have gone into chapter two.
Chapter one in 2005, six, seven, eight, nine about all the maturity of the internet was Nirvana, right? It was all good. Look at all these people doing well. Super cool.
Super nice. The cliche thing that always happens is what's happening right now. Now we're demonizing it. America and humans love to build shit up and then tear it down.
We loved building Zucks up. Now we're loving demonizing him and then we're going to love for him to come back like this is what we do. I just really, really, really want people to stop blaming Instagram. There is no Instagram.
There's you. You don't like it? Don't consume it. It's free.
Yeah. I mean, just the same as don't. Don't blame the wine. You're the one who uncorks it.
You're the one who drinks it. And I understand that there's pressures and I understand that there's addictive tendencies and I understand the way that the brain works. I understand it's not easy and some people may have it rougher than other people and all that's understood. But fundamentally, it's your hand.
It's your bottle. It's your corkscrew. You know, you can make you can make a different choice. And if you need help making that different choice, fucking go get help making that different choice.
It's still though. It's still true. It's all about accountability. Like we have to remember that this isn't about nerfing the whole world and saying, oh, video games and fucking Instagram.
It's all bad and ruining kids. Like, no, these are extraordinary forces. So let's acknowledge those and let's just teach and coach and help people out. Sugar is an extraordinary.
It is. It is. Like, I think, I think that's right. But I think, I think right now we're in a very convenient state and everybody's throwing around judgment and blame, like it's free.
And we need to, I feel a huge sense of responsibility to articulate accountability, lack of entitlement and positivity because I believe it. Yeah. You know, it's funny. There's a very interesting thing going on here right now, which is there's an extraordinary amount of people that are content or happy They just don't communicate Right like negativity by nature is louder has always been your grandmother who's miserable was louder than your grandfather Who's content?
The problem is now words are being documented at scale. This has always been the way There's nothing different right now. It's just that we can't look at our grandmother's tweets Fuck if we could I mean my grandmother Was one of the most super negative people I've ever come across in my life in my life just Unbelievably negative everything was negative every good thing that happened was a conspiracy theory And and I used to be mad at her and then I had to remind myself as I got older and more thoughtful I'm like this is a woman who lived in the Soviet Union who went through World War two You know who saw some shit and who lost her husband and who had because I do my great grandmother too had a negative negative mother And like you become it more empathetic as you become more thoughtful But it doesn't take away from the fact that my grandma would have been spitting fucking venom on Instagram If that shit was around in 1957, you know and so Like I think we need to get into some real conversations and right now the conversations are lazy social media is bad It's Apple's job to restrict it. That's cool I'm like fine with a level of like platform and government involvement.
I'm fine with that But like you'll always be disappointed if you think some big force is gonna save you you'll always be disappointed So just solve it for yourself That's what we but that's people make money off that idea as well Which is one of the things that in the health world is is really challenging to look at when people give some kind of diagnosis for every little thing And give some magical cure that's outside Vinegar fucking Vinegar like I see all this shit. I'm like what the fuck well in anything It's like this thing is out of your control. You can't fix it. Oh, you're having a little trouble focusing Don't worry.
We got you covered like you're broken. You're broken like all the messaging coming across is you're broken We can fix it. You're broken. We can fix it.
You know somebody Yeah, the end yeah, and I'm like you're not broken. You're not broken. That's the secret. Nobody here is broken Nope, we all Actually good at a couple of things spend all your fucking time trying to figure out what you're good at and if God forbid One of those things is something you actually like to you're off to the fucking races Yeah, and if and in 2019 when you can make a podcast or an Instagram account or a Shopify store around Dragon Ball Z and Make 73,000 a year doing that.
That's real what I just said is real That's fucking crazy that if you go pot committed you have a job that you don't like paying college debt that you're pissed about But instead of coming home and having a beer and watching Netflix and playing fucking Fortnite to escape I get it you want to escape I get it what I'm saying is just take a step back Listen to me for a second come home and start building your Dragon Ball Z eBay account by buying shit on Craigslist and flipping it start a podcast I go Dragon Ball Z episode one here. We are did it. Just our Instagram account around Dragon Ball Z build build build build build build build build build If you fucking did that around somewhere 12 years ago loved Black Panther somebody did it was a rare comic book It wasn't the biggest of the world But somebody loved it But they didn't think that they could build a business about Black Panther what they didn't know was 10 years later Black Panther was gonna be made a feature film that was gonna completely penetrate culture if she or he had a podcast and Instagram account That really was the niciest of niche Black Panther fans which made no fucking sense 10 years ago But it had its 43,000 people that fucked with Black Panther When that movie came out and had that huge marketing budget that motherfucker would have gotten 50,000 bucks to market the fuck out of that movie on his Instagram Snapchat Facebook Twitter podcast blog And that same person right now is still sitting in her cubicle making 79,000 a year or hating life I'm fascinated by that. It's interesting.
You know like it's almost like we all have the chance to drill our wells And we drill our wells through our effort through our sweat through our intensity But the water table may have maybe at 300 feet So if we don't go deep enough, you know if we just kind of casually fucking with Black Panther said really going deep and continuing to dig We won't ever hit the water of being lucrative or the water of success We may pull up at 200 feet. We may pull up at 250 feet and not get any water And so there's no confusion somebody's gonna go 400 feet The great thing is that we can all do it. The bad thing is we can all do it. So now you're competing with the world You know, there's a lot of people that started wine videos in 2008 after mine popped every liquor store in America started their wine show They just weren't good enough Right?
There's a lot of people trying to do Gary V videos on Instagram every day a whole whole lot more of those than wine shows In 2008, but they're not good enough because it's not true Yeah, like the only way to really win is to be true You got to be it man. You know, I had an interesting thing happen last night So yesterday I was out shooting hoops, so I could hopefully beat you today, which failed I lost I genuinely think after you drilled that first one the subtle I really believe in that shit. I believe the majority of victories that I've had in physical sports things have been completely mental victories non-physical Well, this alright, so so gay through throws the ball the wrong spin So I have to go reach for it But I definitely actually soccer kick it back to myself and actually what fuck with me too was alright I see Gary playing a trick I know what it's supposed to do But look at how smooth I was with that soccer kid And I'm on my head because the brain the brain is the operating system What happened was I stopped the ebb and flow of what was naturally gonna happen and then you are so in the brain too That you almost overcorrect the other way we go Well in my efforts to try and prevent happening I'm out there shooting hoops in my backyard And I've lived at this house for almost seven years and in the front of the house There's a drainage ditch and the drainage ditch has some embankments and it has some places where like the drain kind of has a tunnel And I just would think alright this is the drainage ditch from my house and never thought another thing about well yesterday There's a kid on a BMX bike and I'm out there shooting hoops and he is just ripping through my drainage ditch jumping over the things Hitting the embankment riding it like a vert ramp and then and then going back and like peeling out and I was like Whoa, I never saw the front of my yard as a BMX fucking terrain park But he did because that's what he does like he was clearly like he is that dude He was the dude who could see that as a terrain park and whoever you are right now wherever you are You're the dude that sees something that someone else doesn't see that the owner of the fucking house never saw once I had no idea I was like that's just the annoying part that if I fall off the driveway I'll get stuck Like but I didn't see it as a BMX terrain park, but we all have that ability. We all have something there I'm such a fan of what you just said.
Honestly, you know usually when I go in hot gas with things that nature I'm like trying to answer the questions. I'm thinking I've already done it once here I'm listening so I'm thinking of new things to say that really stopped me dead on my tracks I'm gonna tell you why I'm obsessed with perspective like I genuinely believe you find what you're looking for if you're looking for Bad right now. It's a piece of cake. If you're looking for good right now.
It's a piece of cake I'm just asking what the fuck are you looking for like please? It's just a very simple question like and by the way I hate in a lot of ways I hate the way I talk because it's super simple and I'm sitting right now thinking about the kid Who's listening to this and she or he is in her room right now your pods in listening to this and they're miserable because their dads Alcoholic or their mom's that's like real shit. You know like tough stuff and I'm like, uh, it's so like fuck you It's not that simple yet. It is like, you know one thing I don't do well is talk about my problems it which manifests in many ways it manifests in being taken for granted in My real life and in my collective life my outward life now.
You're fucking problems lots of problems Real ones I grew up with lots of stuff like lots and lots of lots of stuff I just am not capable of going into it like I don't I don't get going like I can't get there and so One of the things that you know that I try to mine kids I'm like take me out of the equation like don't even use me when I'm saying these things for you If you know of one person that has ever gotten to a happy place that dealt with your circumstance There is a blueprint and It there have been people night train lean legendary football player was thrown in a dumpster the second He was born went on to be one of the great football players of all time dated every actress in the game was red Box's bodyguard iconic gentleman dumpster like like there's all sorts of circumstances Yeah, and we all have a fucking dumpsters everyone and you know who else dumpsters You know what's dumpsters kids that have too much you want to talk about who I'm actually getting hit up I it's not the kid in the hood that's on me with you know gunna anything I'm cool now like how do I get out of it's kids that are trust on babies who are sick listen? And I know this I never judge somebody that comes from a shitty circumstance. I'm a cheerleader I'm an underdog guy, right? I'd share that I see I meet you and we're friends and then like we're at a dinner party But my friend comes home because you know that is right like that's a grandson of fucking Howard Hughes I immediately judge that person nothing that person ever achieves.
I'll give credit to that's me That's actually how I see the world. I will not fully give credit to my own children because of that reason I really I'm being very transparent here I would much rather in a world of the Internet where the Internet doesn't care who you are I would much rather in 2019 come from too little than come from too much not in 1984 because there was no Internet And all those relationships and all that money really mattered But I believe that we're living in a very funny time where clout reputation work ethic a lot of different things are starting to be put on pedestals not just money and earning your keep and who you are and What you're giving to the world and I think we're living in a very interesting position Whatever you have it changes your start position and that can be overwhelming, right? It's all about what you do with what you have from where you begin And by the way, it's all perspective right for me as somebody who takes so much pride in the process I wouldn't have wanted to start on third and a half base somebody else's right now is like I'm pretty cool with it I'm pretty pumped pops. Well, you know, and I thought on third and a half base you better fucking hit it 500 feet Or it's really fun.
Here's where it's really fun. Here's where it gets super like interesting or not and guess what? Who the fuck are all of us? You're on third and a half base and you end up on second and a half base and what you're gonna And this is actually the punch line.
I want like actually somebody's listening right now If you're somebody who's like 50 60 70 and you start in third and a half base and ended on second and a half base But your pump is fucking happy for real. Please email me. I'm really like I just want to know that insight because I actually think it's the reverse of me What it's usually I think it's similar to me, which is what actually happens? When you can calibrate judgment.
I believe one of the biggest reasons that I'm one of the forefront bases of all this is because I can handle the judgment Which hate I have there's a video right now of a young woman doing a motivational speech. She crushed it It's going a little viral on Twitter. I'm getting destroyed by the comments They're like, yeah, fuck that Gary Vee guy. I know that too.
You're freaking making fun of that hurts and most people are folding their shares When they get judged like that. I'm not because I know every one of those people who said that have never met me I can handle judgment if you don't know me if Caleb and Nick the oh thought I was a dick face then I have a real problem Well, then it's a truer reflection But even it's even still it's not the truest like our we ourselves are the truest mirror of ourselves If we actually are fair and we actually look without the biases that we all bring then we're the only ones I mean Bodhi Miller was someone who taught me that right he was like if someone pumps your tires They don't know you if they congratulate you on that it's like he would get congratulated on finishing a race And he didn't like the race he couldn't take that he's like well I didn't fucking ski my best and he would ski his best sometimes crash or not finish well And everybody's like oh, sorry, man. He'd be like fuck you man like I fucking skied my best You know what I mean man like honestly like that just got me fired up about Bodhi I'm the same way man like like it's unbelievable how I just I do not take the accolades And I do not take the hate. I'm just fucking in the middle.
I'm in my own head. It's really a reflection of who's saying it It's not a really reflection of their projection. You'll appreciate this. It doesn't go that far bro.
Honestly I got your pods in 24-7. Can't hear shit for my mom to a stranger. Just don't hear it I don't know what else to tell you. I'm in a very fucking place a very interesting place on this You know what it's driven by empathy.
I know they don't know me. They don't know me They they just can't fucking begin to know me like I hate Scotty Pippin I don't know Scotty Pippin, so I understand it. I fucking hate Scotty Pippin I despise Tom Brady and I actually know a lot of people I know him and sounds like he's a fairly solid dude I still fucking hate him and so like if I'm willing to do that then everyone's willing to do that and everyone does permission to do that And I'm like but but I think judgment is on tilt judgment is like fucking I'm telling you man like that's all we're doing now People are just fucking hot taking each other 24-7 365 casting judgment is on tilt judgment is has momentum judgment is the is the is the Undertoned right now and honestly I want to push so against it or calibrate it. Yeah, you know, like I'm just I've lost so much momentum I'm judging somebody you can't imagine the last five years.
Everybody does it's a human trait But like mine doesn't get going anymore like I'm just like I don't know anything about anybody It's true. It's hard enough to know ourselves let alone talking somebody else like to really have a clear view of us Who's looking in the fucking mirror back at us like to really see that shit? I mean that's hard enough work Let alone somebody else another entire human being and all of the pressures and all the urges and all the things and the amount of hypocrisy people spit Like just like oh fuck that guy. Look what you just did and like literally they did that shit yesterday Like I just see it every day.
It's crazy like like I'm just shocked by people's ability to be such insane hypocrites Well the ego needs to put them in a position where they feel superior the ego only judges itself in relative position So no matter what if someone's uncomfortable with their relative position They'll have to make a pro fucking adjustment We have to fucking redefine ego because for some reason a lot of alphas like to think egos decent Let me just explain this very clear to everybody straight up from one man's point of view ego is insecurity with makeup on So like we need to redefine ego because when people hear ego 40% of like yeah But the fucking ego like they think there's a lot of good with that do not fucking confuse confidence with ego ego is fucking insecurity It is not confidence. It's fucking insecurity. Yeah. Yeah, always because it's always trying to put yourself in as I said Not absolute position not where you absolutely know who you are and absolutely know what you're doing and you're not faced by the people It's all relative.
It's all based on some fucking delusional wizard of Oz You know sorcerer game where you're trying to create some structure and some rule book for life itself in which this person is below you Or this person had this advantage or this person had this disadvantage, you know playing up your disadvantages is also another game like Oh, well, I'm in the most disenfranchised group of the disenfranchised group of the disenfranchised group So basically I can't lose and you were in this in this enabled group I mean that's something I got all the time my dad was a successful commodity straight He went insane before on it was ever successful and I never got a dime from him But some people will go look at my father. Oh, he was a commodity straight. Look at this fucking rich boy Of course you created on it. I'm like and that's a way to do business for my parents I get I fucking took 22 to 34 gave up my entire this is insane to me in hindsight Gave up my entire best-dude years to spend every minute in a liquor store to build a business for my parents left at 34 Had no money so much so that Vayner media started in the conference room of buddy media because I had no fucking money to even pay rent And all that you know and a small percentage of people anytime I say anything's like a daddy's liquor store Or you know and then it manifests or he was given four million dollars Like I think this shit sometimes that I'm like and honestly I mean it I'm like fuck man I feel bad like for that person to like want to say that because it makes them feel better that they're not willing to put in the work Or they're unhappy or whatever is going on for them.
That makes me feel like you know sympathy like honestly I like this is what I'm trying to tell people this is a good topic There's a lot of you out there that are happy they're successful and you're and one of the things that's happening is you're putting out stuff And you're being crippled a little bit by the comments and you get angry and and we created this term trolls I don't look at his trolls I really don't a lot of my friends back in the day were like why do you feed trolls? I'm like because I respect other people's points of you and I want to learn from conversation Like everybody now is just like trolls trolls trolls and any negative thing you get people dismiss as hate hate or aid trolls I fucking read that shit. I read it because I've never wanted to become a character to myself I need to make you know I need to calibrate it. I definitely doesn't bring me down.
I want to understand it It allows me to just and I have to adjust we all have to adjust I just think there's a lot of things going on in the system But I really want to get people's minds more quiet because it is just one big game of are you valuing other people's opinions? Or are you valuing your own process? Yeah, and just a validation from others is a is a no-win game And I don't know what happened I mean I know what happened parenting and circumstance environment in hindsight my ability to navigate high school without peer pressure Which is what I did straight up like it's been fun for my high school friends to be hitting me up on Facebook and stuff like that nature You know, they're just like yeah, you really did do that shit like I just didn't give a fuck I was selling baseball cards and my sophomore year you said something in the gym You're like I was into magic so into it and then you're like and then I gave it up and literally my brain was I'm like, yeah, because you're good looking dude. You got to play school.
I'm not getting fucking bitches if I play man No, Gary, let me tell you how it actually when I was playing I'm a little magic circle out in California I used to play at this fucking Johnny's Pizza and there was this one fucking kid who would just always be taking my cards Whatever I would battle him out sweat and I'd listen rolling stones and I'd usually lose but nonetheless I was fucking feverish about it I was in it from the drop and then when my pants were like hey, we're moving to Texas I was like no we can't nobody plays magic fair in Texas like my circle I was like eighth grade And I was like I was wrecked his nerd obviously my favorite I was fucking wrecked because then there wasn't like internet It wasn't like an app that I could go like it was over find the magic the gathering circled near you I'm fucking tinder from magic the guy apart. No, there was no Like we have phones like these kids don't get it like it was over. Yeah, and that's why I didn't have no players So what happened and then slowly I lean into basketball lean in some girls also did for sure come Yeah, but nonetheless I probably take my point. I didn't give up these cards for girls cuz I was quiet I was like this and like and to that point.
It's really funny though I got to be honest with you. There's something happening with me in the last three or four weeks where I'm starting to get ambitious I Am starting to see the fruits of my labor I'm starting to see young alpha dudes start to throw around words like gratitude and empathy and kindness And it's really starting to really make me feel good And it's like really fucking with me it really is exciting And I do think you know much like you know You know there's a really interesting reason that I gravitate towards you You have some strong points of you that are not fully accepted you ferris others and I don't consume a lot of contents I don't mean I'm gonna tread lightly here because since I don't really it's very top a line, right? But like everything's cool in moderation as a simplification of me Like I think you're talking about things that are gonna really show that you're historically correct And I think you're gonna help people you're giving people permission and as somebody who was super affected also by his mother on the Nancy Reagan kick And has never fucking done a single drug in his life never done anything anything. I'm inspired by it I mean it I mean it cuz I'm seeing you do shit again, you know cuz I don't really consume a very very funny in my process But I know you're up to something that is a different thing.
It's a different category of things You know one thing you've touched on in the past that I say my radar I think I think I'm talking about parenting and insecurity and truths that people are uncomfortable with I think America's unbelievably uncomfortable with sex and like you know like and drugs and I know that you're playing a little bit in that space and That sounds really fun, but You're doing it from a far more thoughtful Really really thoughtful like mental place in my opinion. Yeah from us from a soulful place, you know And what we're talking about is psychedelics in relationship and I think you're talking and I think you're creating safeness That's what I think you're doing And that's what I'm trying to do. I think we have an entire generation of people that are trying to be successful and I have Enormous ambition to redefine it. I just really want people to be happy.
It's so much more fun to be happy It's so fun to be happy. It's super fun to be happy And and and I don't mean pretending to be happy and I don't mean what everybody's doing Which is spending all their time to appear happy and so I'm a yeah, I'm really in it right now I'm in a zone and you know what like the key one of the keys that I find a happiness is when Happiness lives in the moment in the moment you're in and really happiness is acceptance of the moment you're in and like Whatever process that might be and just recognizing that and whenever you're doing something for some other reason and projecting It's harder to be happy. There's a good example of this this morning. This morning.
I'm taking a fucking selfie in the Sun I don't do that often. I was like ah nice son. It's important day I'm gonna take a fucking selfie and there is a butterfly that came well I don't get a lot of butterflies in my background This butterfly comes wafting by me and I was like ooh sweet I can get a selfie with a butterfly right and and so I spend this time moving myself around and there's this magical moment Where's this butterfly fluttering around me the Sun was just shining I could have just breathed and enjoyed myself But instead I'm fucking chasing this butterfly around with my fucking selfie camera and then I wake up and go that was really stupid or was it? Oh, I felt like it was.
I'm gonna enjoy the butterfly I'll be honest with you What you just said is something I'm thinking a lot about which is we're not that we're not even demonize it But society is starting to demonize like live in the moment Right there's this photo that went viral as fuck like four years ago with a pope and everyone's taking a photo And there's that like 88 year old lady and she's just looking at it and everyone's like trying to make it to be this great thing And I was like she didn't have a fucking phone Like like like like like like like why are we making letters on a like if I send you a really nice three-sentence text tomorrow Like how much I enjoy today right which now I'm not gonna do cuz I've said it out loud But like like why? Does putting on a piece of paper and sending as a note because what because it made seem like I put an extra two minutes into it Like we're starting to do things where I think it's awesome that you chased around the butterfly It's funny. I think it's funny and interesting and like like I don't know like I don't want to fucking stand there and just take in the butterfly Like like I think it's fun to chase it with the camera That was just fun from a game save a butterfly's fucking quick like that shit was hard You know, so like I don't know again This goes to like the currents that we live in society where like right now like everyone's like just take it in I don't know I wish I had photos of me at baseball card shows. You know fucking pissed.
I am Do you know how sad I am that I don't have photos from 1989 to 1992 at the 87 different baseball card shows that I have Cuz I'd like to see them. I'd like to see them So like cool I'm glad everybody's demonizing selfie sticks and all this shit But I promise you in 39 years while you were making fun of those people They're gonna be thrilled to look at it and their kids are gonna be very thrilled to look at it And I'm super sad cuz I don't have jack shit of my childhood like my throwback Thursday game is wack as fuck Cuz I got nothing because I got rushing so we didn't really take photos and so like you know like again There is a yang and a yang to everything and we should be the judge and jury of it and back to your point if it was cool For two minutes to chase it with a selfie cool, and then if you're like fuck it I'm an idiot. Let me take this in cool and like that's you and that's it But everybody's taking everybody else is like I'm watching people like Like like see one piece of content. I mean like yeah, that's what I'm doing now I'm gonna sell my phone and write letters like and they do it to me in the other way right like Gary's right I'm gonna do is no I'm putting out my perspective Filter that through you take the good that works for you from that leap like leave the shit that you don't like most people aren't as competitive as I am What's that fucking hot you think all the end sauce dude?
I'm like still kind of like back and play sauce again Yeah, like you know like not everybody's back up like that's why I love this I love competing and business for me is competing and I wasn't built enough to be in a league and by the way All those years where I was sad that I wasn't an athlete now I'm the happiest that I'm an entrepreneur not an athlete now that I'm really in the game and the world I feel bad for these athletes. You're super competitive. That is your high. That is what gets you excited and when you're a rock star You could like mid-jagger still doing it, but when Kobe's not playing what he was meant to do He's a child still and look where he's going to the business world to get that fucking feeling so I don't know I think I think what you're saying is a really good point though because there's a way that you can put a hierarchy of value value in your Life and valuable situations right and saying that if you're taking a selfie that is of no value because you should be taking the present Which is instead it's still a judgment.
It's still you're putting a hierarchy together Instead of just going out even further and bursting out of that being like there's no judgment for any of us As long as you're not hurting anybody your secret thought in my mind that I'm desperately hopeful will happen This is a very weird thing about the same never shared this There's a very big part of me and a conversation I consistently have with myself that secretly though I won't force it. This is where I really know how to like play with myself I secretly hope I wake up one day and don't want to buy the Jets anymore And don't want to work the way I want to work and want to do something else completely left Field and I can't wait to wake up look at the camera be like I'm out and leave and not give a fuck what anybody says Oh, he figured out that he couldn't do it So he did this or see see you can't work like Gary V He got burned out like don't get the fuck if I genuinely in my soul feel it I can't wait to go build fucking sand castles in Peru And that's it in powering you see what I'm going so fucking empowering I'm gonna get trapped by the identity that we formerly You said he pegged it for me in a podcast on my podcast. He flipped it on me He goes, you know your super powers. I'm like what he's like, you don't judge yourself I'm like fuck you're right, and that's what I was This is why I'm so hot in this judgement thing the great blessing of my life is that I don't judge myself I always felt accountable like it doesn't mean you go and be reckless.
I'm not delusional when I fuck up And I saw it's just that I just don't over judge it everyone's tearing themselves down the fuck are you doing that Where everybody else is doing it for you stop eating yourself up like what? Yeah, it's like we have this idea of what we should be what we're supposed to already be Whoever the fuck you are right now, whoever you are today is tomorrow's idiot like tomorrow You're gonna look back at yourself of yesterday last week last year and be like, oh, yeah I was still just figuring it out, and you're always gonna be in that fucking position forever and parents if you're listening right now Cuz you know that to be true stop being a dick because you know that you're 57 and you don't have anything figured out The fuck are you pressuring your 19-year-old to figure it out Can we just look at eliminate that? Honestly, maybe we can do it right here. You'll get a lot of listens to this if this is the true moment in society Where we eliminate figuring it out.
There is no fucking figuring it out. There is no out It doesn't end the fuck are you talking about what getting a job in accounting firm when you're 23 you figured it the fuck out getting married at 29 You figured it what the fuck are we talking about here? There is no figuring it out It's an endless infinite loop of figuring and so if you're a 57 year old and forcing your 22 year old to figure it out Because you want to look good to your friends that your child figured it out not you want your kid The ego gets activated again cuz you can shit on those other parents who's kid. No, you love your child You should tell them to never figure it to fuck out just live and you know Can we take another turn yeah another big thing that is because it's funny where my body just went with that like all this talk leads to me getting Hot on people not buying things Like I feel people are unbelievably good at trapping themselves in unhappiness because of things they buy Based on a lot of things.
We just talked about like I don't know like I don't want people to buy the kind of homes and cars They're buying that puts them into a place where they have to then take a job or stay at a job They don't want to I'm really hot on this right now I really really really really really want people to stop buying homes or homes They can't afford like one of the funniest moves because I've said it once and I got inundated and I did it And I see everybody doing it almost everybody on their first home by something that completely stretches the living shit out of them Like to the bear and then meanwhile There's like usually five rooms in that thing that they don't even use like I wish that there could be a new rule So a little bit more in the trenches and home buying can somebody create a rule that like leave 35% like like whatever It is like go 35% down So you're not so stretch because what happens is the next day everyone celebrates you you have a new home You're all set you're now fucking gold and hang up like a motherfucker like nothing can happen to you financially Or you can't make your mortgage payments and live the same lifestyle that you like and If you tried to make a switch and go to your passion go to something that you really wanted to do build fucking sand castles and Guess what well that means that you have to get rid of your house really quick or change this all this momentum all of this debt All of this accumulation all this depreciation is actually gonna restrict your freedom and freedom It has to be one of the highest things that we can put number one I think people bread entrepreneurs love freedom number one. I love freedom number one when people say to me What does success look like and I guess that's a lot I always say the same thing pretty consistently for a long time being able to wake up and do whatever fuck I want whenever I want the end that to me is number freedom is number one two three four five Maybe this is the first time I've ever made this connection Maybe it's because I was born in not a very free place that subconsciously wired some way into me that By the way, that's why candor and transparency are at my core that's freedom to that is hundred percent I imagine if you were trying to hold some shit secret like I just published a newsletter And it was called five uncomfortable truths and it was the middle of the night And I was like you know what there's some shit that people don't know about me boom and then so I just fucking put that out Oh sure we go ha isn't that nice and everybody feel free to tell the truth It's okay, and if you don't like me because of my truth Oh, yeah, one of my truths is I've been addicted to sleeping medication for the last year and I run a fucking human optimization company That's that's tough it's tough to admit that, you know, but it's the fucking people you just helped with that Dude, that's incredible. Don't really proud of you, bro. Thanks.
It's an enormous amount of strength to do stuff like that But it's liberating that's the thing it's M&M's last scene in the movie bro This has been figured out a long time ago. It's called eight mile the movie go watch it. It's a rap battle That is life itself you're up against it first move shit on yourself in perpetuity that nothing else is left to anybody else You've now won because when he makes that transition to but there's something I know about you clearance That's how I live life when people judge me. I'm like what's going on in your life The reason I don't judge anybody is I don't want people do that to me.
That's the real game That's the one percent game when people spit hate I'm like, but what's going on in your life? What are you up to and and and what I the reason I called my brand empathy and the reason some my friends have helped me through this Be back why I realize a lot of times it's actually sympathy not empathy and I'm trying to learn all these things Every you know, my mom has a Russian saying and basically translates to everybody's got some shit in their chicken head But I believe in that and I think the fact that you can do that What you understand is a lot of things but one of them is you got that's I said it earlier Everybody sucks at a lot of things. No doubt man And it's just a perfect person. It's just about embracing that embrace the fact that you suck And enjoy something that I think you and I represent and we're not all the way there yet But I I have a real interesting observation I believe that everybody thinks things are super fucked up and I think this is the beginning of an incredible century of human behavior I believe what we're living through right now that when we look back at this video We're like fuck we're so young fuck we look good I'm gonna watch this exact video in 60 years and we're gonna be like fuck this was right I'm so positive about what about to say this level of lack of privacy Some people like you and I are starting to understand it so well that we're leaning in in the other direction There's always a reaction an encounter reaction I believe that everybody's about to figure out that there's nowhere to hide which is gonna lead for everybody being more transparent Which is gonna lead to people realizing they can't hide which is gonna eliminate so much of the hypocrisy And once everybody understands that the skeletons in her closet are actually gonna be exposed anyway We're gonna start transforming into a lot of the radical what people think are when you say your stuff like open relationships I laugh like that's gonna be the norm in a hundred years because the shadows were what enabled yeah The ability to hold privacy to keep secrecy to not get caught It allows these games these games of these games to exist and when systematic racism is gonna have a problem It's like all of these things so I don't know I'm pretty thankful and I've never been more optimistic in the future I mean that I mean this is very healthy It's what I think it's funny to people who are super paranoid and they put a little tape over their computer and stuff like that Cuz they're worried that somehow fucking the forces that be you're gonna catch them jerking off Okay, if fucking Apple wants to come out with a video of me jerking off Congratulations Apple you win I jerk off That's exactly right and that's where this is all gonna go like I keep telling everybody like I took a lot of heat The last three or four years there's a lot of content of me out there asked as this sort of bubbling up Gary What about privacy?
I'm like nobody gives a fuck and the whole room would gasp and like I'm like that's not me That's not my opinion. I'm telling you based on your actions fuck Facebook posted on Instagram What are we doing out here? What are we doing out here? You know I mean like people talk you know all your friends We're gonna move to Canada when Bush got reelected or the mama got reelected or the ones that are saying it now when Trump gets reelected Where are all those fuckers?
None of people? I mean I know thousands of people that told me that both parties That's why I used all the presidents. They're not in Toronto. They're still right the fuck here So, you know, you know me people tweet all sorts of things and then are living a completely just let's get a little bit more thoughtful out here Yeah, yeah, and just fucking recognize the human nature of just figure everybody always in the country after the word nature there humans humans So I'm a good marketer.
I understand people right and the reason I'm happy is I'm so grateful as somebody who's really good at it That I didn't manipulate it for bad. I'm trying to manipulate it for good Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, and when you manipulate for good you're not even manipulating You're just exposing and you're allowing for different conversations Let me say this because you have a very thoughtful audience We have a good crew of peeps in here This is real what I'm about to say we have to rally around this if you're in a good place We have to start sharing more of it Everybody's spinning hate and everyone's accepting that then you have people that are spinning positivity and people are shitting on those people Like I get shit out like it's I'm watching this is amazing. We have to make positivity louder But positivity has to be grounded in practicality the reason I think my voice can be unique at times is because positivity often becomes delusional Well becomes you become the one who is positive and when you become the one who is positive when you have those negative thoughts bubbling up from the shadows You better stuff those motherfuckers away in a drawer somewhere because you're the one who's positive all the time like share your whole fucking journey And if you're mostly positive fucking great, and if you're mostly negative don't blame it on other people just say Hey, I'm in a fucking tough spot world, but I'm figuring it out and I appreciate all of you positive motherfuckers do That's another thing everybody thinks everything that we share is the final score When you're sharing that you're struggling at night I view that as the other team just went on a level run yep, but it's still a second quarter Yeah, and I know you call the time out in the comb crowd boot you but the true fans didn't go pay it This is such a good analogy go pay attention to this go watch it Go to a basketball game watch the home team go on a terrible run and pay attention to who boos and who chews very interesting insight That's what happens when you sent that email there were people that boot sure and then there were real fans that shared Yeah, and that's how I see it and so why is everything that's happening in your life the definitive end score?
It's a process some chapters are good something like I would wish I could have watched my content from when I was in school Those were dark times for me. I hated school, bro I hated a fuck at a school Like the anxiety had every fucking two months that I had to be punished because my mom would ground me back So this is where she did it great I think one of the reasons I'm happy is my mom made me accountable for the ramifications even if it wasn't like Like I was in school like even though she knew that was gonna dictate my life She punished me and I fucked with me who likes being punished like getting Nintendo taken away for two weeks fucking blows when you're 14 Wow, yeah Oh fuck with me that dude Especially when you're just getting your techno game going you know I'm just getting good at tech mobile and then three weeks off the grid and I come back and everyone's fucking school me bojax style I'm like fuck mom see you know like so I don't know I I think that's right I think people lack perspective That's it you know one of the things that absolutely I've been sharing that has really been valuable is when I meet 57 year old Homies and I keep reminding them like you do know that you're gonna live for another 40 years and like why are you wrapping shut up? Oh because your grandfather did and that's what you saw conditioning correct news alert It's not nineteen fucking three anymore. Yeah, right?
Like I'm sitting here. I'm 43 like fuck man. Yes, I know and everybody loves you could get it by bus I'm like cool and I won't care But if not like if I'm going for another fifty five if I'm going for another sixty five with modern medicine like Late second quarter just get started. Just get started right, but it's real It is it's real and like I really want that like people you know People think they're they're fucked up if they don't have shit figured out at 30 like really fucked up It's too late.
It's too late. I ruined it. I went left when I should have gone right and here I am and it's all fuck I should have took a job a friend from Michigan State took that job And he's got a nice house in the suburbs. I fucked up.
I thought I was gonna be a rock star I'm like to even start it even started. Yes, sir. You know what did we get to in your paper? We didn't get anything on my paper.
So let's get out of questions. Let's do it So one thing we want to talk about is the force that is the Chinese market and how you do that We were just talking today. I don't know is that public information about case with yeah? Oh, yeah, so case waste just got bought up by a Chinese conglomerate as you're mentioning.
It's a one one Let me just say everybody time China one and now it just plays out I believe that China will be the biggest empire in the world and That fucks with Americans because it fucked with people in the UK when it was happening to them And I'm sure the Romans weren't pumped either and Genghis Kong screw was pissed too. Yep, you know And the many things that we're living through we're living through clearly the early stages of the transition of America losing It's grasp as the number one out in the world. China's bought up all the infrastructure around Africa already and Africa's not even happening for another 30 years They're trying to one that's a hell of perspective. So I so how do how do people how do people companies other people?
How do we leverage this opportunity? How do we like you know, what do we do start figuring fucking shine out? I figure out how they do business with the cultures about how you can do business there I can do business with them in other places and also figure out that like plenty of people have won in the last 200 years that didn't live in America Like there's the richest man in the world was from Mexico a couple years ago, right? Like like and what does that even mean right like this is back to like you're gonna be quite easily happy Like but there's a sense of like fuck.
We're not gonna be number one. Fuck. First of all, it's back to we You're not America. You just have it a little bit it So yeah, I listen I spent a lot of time we're opening up an office in Singapore and that is kind of with this summer And so I'm gonna be spending a lot of time there I am highly interested in doing business and learning the culture and foods and trends and like I think it's exciting like I don't agree That's nothing with me.
This isn't the time of war anymore like when Genghis Khan was fucking rising That was a little scary, you know because he was like he was fucking you up literally literally China winning. It's okay Everybody is okay. Yeah, okay. They win.
They win the business game like you're okay. It's right. They're not gonna come fuck Be down your house. I'll tell you what America's greatest weapon is and has been and greatest asset Hollywood Hollywood is America's greatest ammo The culture of America is still the culture of America and most people listening right now if you for some reason didn't like last five minutes Here's something you can latch on to you will probably live all the way through your life with brand America and the American cultural impact As the core ecosystem, you know the hip-hop artists from the dirty south of Atlanta like become way more global stars But we're already seeing it change a little bit Right like if you like look at me look at America bad bunny and Becky G and k-pop stars like right like you know And like like when did you like none of us grew up with k-pop Korean pop stars making 14-year-old blonde girls in Chicago screen, right?
So like pay attention shit's happening, but the American brand is a fucking beast. Yeah, like a beast Yeah, yeah, you see that when you travel hundred percent no matter what there's a status politics or business or whatever else like the culture of the Movies the music but China's done shit. They're innovating on AI. They're doing shit They're building fucking like transportation hubs through their entire country like they invested in Africa's and the resources there They they're like building great companies like they're doing shit because they have a form of dictatorship and capitalism that allows you to get shit Done China runs its country much more similar to the way you and I run our companies than America You let you don't like remain a genie thing except when you have something that you need to get done right?
That's what I do. I don't like remain a shit But then if I'm agenda then it gets done it gets on fast and that's why China's getting a lot of things done That's really fucking interesting man. That's a whole perspective. Thank you.
All right Nick Perna 13 How do you deal with distancing friends that slow down your future goals? First by making sure that I'm not being an audacious dick That's number one really mean it like all of a sudden you decided to be successful in your home You're like don't be a dick number one number two by trying to over communicate these are true friends over communicate the path That you're on and try to get them motivated and excited to be on it with you Number three after you did number one and two heavily because these are friends now number three is just limiting the interaction You know, maybe going from hanging out every second and every day to hanging out three times a week Limiting things that you feel are actually detrimental to you. Right rather than that hard cut that we have to do Yeah, everyone's like oh my friend spoke to which we'd all day this fucking loser's not going anywhere now I just started watching this content. I'm fucking fired up.
I'm gonna be a fucking winner. Like you're out Dominic No, Dominic's been your boy in 20 years. Don't be a dick like first say like first We're all laughing cuz we actually know this is happening, you know, so like and it's funny as the person that sometimes is making the content It's making that happen. I don't want that.
I want this. This is the process first look at yourself Are you full of shit second try to put your people on with you? Let's do this together. Let's go try to hype them up Then third if that doesn't work and you're and you're actually genuinely feeling it and saying like, you know, I'm ready Like I feel like I'm getting sucked into that negativity or pacifist and I want to go in a different pound You can go do that, but you can still have that relationship.
Yeah. Yeah, and and and I'm just gonna add on this because it's important I believe it's even more of a conversation with your family There's a lot of people right now really struggling with their transition because they have a negative mother or father And it's and it's a force in their life that is really fucking them up And I don't think you need to cut out that but maybe you don't have to answer every one of his calls where you know The calls can be negative Yep, just limit it. Just limit it instead of those hard cuts That that black and white that binary thing good for computer code kind of shitty for life You know kind of shitty for life to have to have that binary philosophy, right? You know like the person who's most in control and I know I've used this analogy But most in control of drinking isn't the one who can't be around a drink never step into a bar Never have a taste because if they do they're gonna end up in a fucking back alley with a needle in their arm and seven hookers, right?
Like if you're that mentality like you're not really over being an alcoholic If you can have a drink and like be moderate You're really more in control and if you can be around don't make a weed smoker and have a good time every once in a while You better off or if you can take that energy to something else Yeah, like you know if you can deploy that energy to something else. There's also that part of the equation But I agree with you last question At isi Calbra asks what is the legacy that you want to leave behind that I gave more than I took It's very clear to me. I'm very passionate about this. I want to guilt the world to come to my funeral You know, it's very like ludicrous.
I'm telling you right now. I think about my the attendance of my funeral often I do I think it's the great scorecard. I think it's sports. I've used a ton of analogies I think everything The Mets were playing game six of the world series in 1986 in their home stadium and the scoreboard said congratulations Boston Red Sox 1986 champions because they were down three to one I think the score was they were down two runs and there was two outs and nobody on in the bottom of the ninth In game six of the world series and Boston was up three two and they won that world series If you're 74 years old listening right now and you're a fuck up through and through all the way I think you can be the 86 Mets.
I really believe that. I really think that's cool. I yes, I'm optimistic It's also real. That's truth And so I think the final score is when you die and I think the scoreboard is how many people show up to your fucking funeral That is my perspective on life And so my legacy will be will Nick Dio who spent meaningful time with me at some point in our lives Hopefully forever but he goes on to it like will he feel so compelled when he's in Arizona doing whatever he's doing his life That when he hears the news will be so compelled.
Nick how old are you? So So will 86 year old Nick Dio in Arizona doing his thing when he hears the news that one-on-one year old Gary has gone Seven times Super Bowl champion. Oh, he passed You know, will he feel compelled like will he feel it in his gut that he has to go You know um to that funeral is something I think about a lot because it takes a lot to do that Right there's a big difference between posting a photo on whatever the instagram is or the hologram he makes or the fucking VR world We live in very different than because he heard his hip because he works out a lot And now he's degenerate hip and fucking 86 in Arizona and flying fucking sucks What the fuck we do now? Time machine shared whatever what's going on?
Will he put in the effort to go to the funeral? I think the level Of value that I need to bring Nick Dio 86 is a lot a lot more than people think to get him to get up And get on that plane or whatever And that's what i'm trying to do Well, you're gonna have to scatter your ashes over that jet stadium because there's gonna be a lot of people coming to that funeral brother I really hope so and honestly one of the things to wrap it up I also think that we need more people with ambitions like that Like people here that sometimes I'll take a razz and I'm like you were so fully yourself I'm like are you listening to what i'm saying? I'm saying that I want to impact people in a positive enough way like it's We need to have I think people need to have bigger ambitions on impact Selflessness, you know humility these are things that need to be attractive I think the biggest winners I know are humble I mean that truly humble when nobody's paying attention You know how do they like I bro I don't have a lot of friends because I'm busy and I want to spend time with my family Do you know how much you understand why I even interact with you? It's how you interact with somebody when we walk into a gym to play basketball Like that's what people are gonna be nice to me especially now Like I watch everybody i'm collecting data 24 seven How are people interacting with other people who are they in their fucking soul?
Are you smiling at a stranger when you do know my favorite thing to do in life? I did the other day like it just really hit me like god I love this god I love my fucking parents and DNA and circumstance You know how fun it is to walk in an airport and look at somebody and just smile dead in their face and get them to smile at you back it's nice it's nice I like that shit man Positivity is underrated underrated no doubt and there's always that opportunity to do it When I told that kid he was riding that BMX bike and cruising through and he was kind of ripping through my line I was like when I went to that and I was like man My dad would have unstuck in the face I was like you're sick and punched and punched and punched like I mean it Like that's so rad that you did it so what did you say? No I just gave him a compliment I was like man you were pretty sick of BMX rider kid Like I didn't say kid I said dude Yeah what do you say? And he was like exactly but he was like stoked you know And I was actually appreciative that he had the courage to do that shit in my yard As I was shooting hoops I got fucking tats on my shirt off I'm fucking shooting hoops out there like I'm obviously and he was just fucking ripping it And I was like good for you man like And for that kid listening right now if you also would have got punched directly in the face Both are right No I mean it's the point like to wrap up this whole conversation Like that's what's so interesting about life It is not binary in that way right like it would be super acceptable And understanding to many listening right now If somebody rolls into their yard and doing that shit with a bike and tear another shit but if the person with tats and fucking diesel comes out And fucking create some warfare like people understand that too And for that kid that's right too Like it's all right It's all fucking right Just a choice Yep Just a choice Thank you brother I appreciate my man Let's have fun tonight Can't wait Let's do it Thanks everybody Peace