How to Stay Curious When Every Instinct Tells You You're Right - with Eric Robinson

Eric Robinson spent years pastoring a church built for people who didn't normally go to church. The work was meaningful. The stress was unsustainable. So he made a call most people would never consider: he applied to the FBI.What followed was a 25-year career that included 15 years on FBI SWAT, roles as a tactics instructor, firearms instructor, and fitness instructor, and front-row seats to some of the deepest male bonds you can build. He retired a few months ago, and this is one of his first conversations since.In this episode, Mark and Eric get into the real stuff: how Eric managed stress that others couldn't, why the FBI felt like a relief after ministry, what SWAT brotherhood actually feels like from the inside, how his team handled a shooting, what "being curious" really means in practice, and how a man figures out who he is when the badge and the title are gone.Eric's closing answer to "the one thing" is simple, practical, and worth sitting with.Chapters00:00 Introduction and the Running Connection04:00 From Ministry to the FBI: The Pivot Nobody Saw Coming07:00 Resilience, Trauma, and Underestimating Yourself10:30 What FBI SWAT Brotherhood Actually Feels Like13:30 The Hot Wash: How Eric's Team Processed a Shooting19:00 Retirement, Identity, and Letting Go of the Badge23:00 The One Thing: Stay Curious, Stay Open📩 Get The One Thing — a weekly note from Mark every time a new episode drops: https://bit.ly/4eIs6gf🎙️ KneeToKnee — connection that compounds.https://youtu.be/r_EpasCuWos☑ Find us most everywhere! https://linktr.ee/kneetoknee#HumanConnection #AuthenticConnections #WellnessJourney