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i really do think that gateway and kari jobe are responsible for carrying this on for this long. in 2013 i was involved in more than one place to volunteer. kind of at the last minute, i decided to volunteer at one place, which is gateway, instead of the

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i really do think that gateway and kari jobe are responsible for carrying this on for this long.  in 2013,2014 i was involved in more than one place to volunteer. kind of at the last minute, i decided to volunteer at one place, which is gateway, instead of the other place.  if i had volunteered at the other place, i dont think there would have been a way for you to know who i am. maybe i could have been visible in some way, but i dont think the media or anything would have been able to get to know me or follow me around. if something like that started to happen at the other place, i think they would have become aware of it and probably tried to put a stop to it. because i think the other place cared a lot about their reputation.  but, i dont think i could have become visible enough for the media to find me in the first place.  since that is the situation i was in, i wish that i had chosen to volunteer at the other place. i was just a regular person. i remember going to topgolf , maybe different name, one of the last things i did before things got out of control.  that is the situation i was in, i am not even saying that was my preference. i wasnt able to find the kind of job i wanted and all of that back then too. so i just kind of wound up in that place and that was what i was doing , and it got to a point where i wanted to volunteer , i tried out to be a volunteer and, at the last minute basically volunteered with a community that i didnt really know, which is gateway and kari jobe. i am not saying the other place was my best friend. but their business is to let people in to the building. i am talking about this kinda at a very basic level. the other place, if they hear about this, they may become afraid. i did not know the people that worked there. i knew some people that went there. but ,  i think that when i signed up to volunteer it was pretty slim opportunity. there were no visible opportunities all of it was indoors private kind of stuff. i am just saying that i went there and was signing up to volunteer. but even then i was not finding you know a job.  i think it is something you should know, that i was struggling with employment and then just kind of landed going to those places. you know, one or two years before , kelly had invited me to go with her to california. but i didnt go. so, i guess you could say i was left behind in a state that did not have a very good economy at the time. 

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i really do think that gateway and kari jobe are responsible for carrying this on for this long. in 2013,2014 i was involved in more than one place to volunteer. kind of at the last minute, i decided to volunteer at one place, which is gateway, instead of the other place. if i had volunteered at the other place, i dont think there would have been a way for you to know who i am. maybe i could have been visible in some way, but i dont think the media or anything would have been able...

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