EPISODE · Feb 13, 2026 · 20 MIN
ICE, Free Speech, and Immigrant Rights: Christie Popp Discusses Today’s Critical Issues
from "To Be And Do" with Philip Amerson
In this timely and candid episode of the To Be and Do podcast, host Philip Amerson sits down with immigration attorney Christie Popp to unpack the evolving—and often alarming—landscape of asylum and immigration policy in the U.S. today. Christie Popp, a founding attorney at Popp and Bullman in Bloomington, Indiana, offers a rare, ground-level view into the lives affected by shifting regulations, political pressure, and the consequences of silence in times of injustice.The episode dives headlong into the unsettling reality of frequent immigration law changes. Christie Popp points out that nearly 600 modifications to the immigration system have occurred in just over a year, particularly impacting asylum seekers and immigration courts. She highlights how these changes, rarely covered in-depth by mainstream media, are shifting the "rules of the game" even as vulnerable individuals' cases are pending, creating both logistical hurdles and a culture of fear.A significant portion of the conversation centers on the particular struggles of Afghans, many of whom were allies to U.S. forces and entered the country through both formal and perilous, unofficial routes. Christie Popp details how these individuals—once celebrated—are now viewed with suspicion. Their cases, along with others, are subject to delays and retroactive review, subjecting them to potential loss of status and deportation on tenuous grounds—often for actions they had no real choice but to take.The discussion broadens to address the chilling effect these policies have on free speech and public protest, especially among immigrants, academics, and their allies. The fear of being detained or targeted for voicing dissent is stifling civic engagement, even among those who are U.S. citizens. Both Philip Amerson and Christie Popp reflect on why these authoritarian patterns haven't sparked more outcry from the public and government leaders.Despite the weighty subject matter, Christie Popp offers ways to take meaningful action—supporting local organizations, contacting representatives, and lending both time and resources are all encouraged. She also shares her personal strategies for maintaining resilience and hope in such difficult work.Key Takeaways:Constantly Shifting Laws: The immigration system is changing at an unprecedented pace, making asylum increasingly inaccessible and causing confusion for both immigrants and advocates.Afghan Allies at Risk: Many Afghan asylum seekers, previously welcomed as allies, now face suspicion, paused applications, and retrospective investigations that could result in deportation.Chilling Effect on Free Speech: Fear of detention or deportation is silencing many immigrants and their allies, undermining not only immigrant rights but also America's broader democratic ideals.How to Help: Local and national organizations need support more than ever, and individual advocacy—through donations, volunteering, or political engagement—can have a significant impact.Staying Resilient:Christie Poppemphasizes the importance of self-care and community, encouraging listeners to seek sources of hope and to care for themselves as they work for justice.This episode is a vital listen for anyone concerned about the state of immigration, human rights, and democracy in the United States.https://poppbullman.com/christie-popp/contact-christie/
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