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IHSTS - Ep. 15 - Ship or Sh*t? Business Partnerships, Betrayal & Burnout

from I Have Sh_t to Say · host Megan Campbell

Quick programming note before we dive in: our producer Brian is clearing his throat a little more than usual this episode — he was just getting over a cold, not staging a coup. Please excuse the frog. This week our usual producer steps out from behind the camera and onto the couch. Brian Prairie (Raven Spring Media) sits down with Megan to tell the story he's only ever alluded to before: the toxic 50/50 business partnership that ended in locked bank accounts, middle-of-the-night accusations, lawyers, and an actual FBI visit. From there, Megan and Brian dig into the murky difference between a trauma bond and a shared value, why "begin with the end in mind" is advice everyone gets and nobody follows, and why money isn't the problem — misaligned values about money are. Guest producer Jake LaMore of the "This One Time in Kankakee" podcast sits in for check-in, and yes, we do eventually explain what "poop on the Prada" means. Key Timestamps[00:00] Intro & Meet Guest Producer Jake LaMore[04:51] Check-In Question: What Would Your Autobiography Be Titled?[10:10] Brian Introduces Himself: Raven Spring Media & Working With Megan[14:47] The Toxic Business Partnership: Fraud, the FBI, and Burnout[21:28] Trauma Bond, Shared Goal, or Shared Value? How to Tell the Difference[32:05] The Business Divorce: Lawyers, Lockouts & Betrayal[39:25] When Money Becomes the Value (And Why That's Not the Problem)[47:32] Why Do We Expect Jobs — and Relationships — to Always Feel Good?[49:16] The "Poop on the Prada" Test: Wash It or Toss It?[55:01] Hernan's Dog Poop Metaphor for Toxic Relationships[56:40] Ship vs. Sh*t: One Letter Makes All the Difference[1:00:27] Final Takeaway: Begin With the End in Mind Standout Quotes"Toxic leaders create an entire culture that supports toxic leadership." — Megan "If there was a mistake to be made, I made it — and then I learned not to do it." — Brian "Is the blowout bad enough that you throw it away, or do you wash it? That's the sh*t metaphor for every relationship in your life." — Megan "A ship can definitely turn into sh*t. The only difference is one letter." — Megan Therapist's Toolkit3 Partnership Questions:1. Do I actually know the difference between a goal I share with this person and a value I share with them?2. Have we talked about "the end" before we began — what happens if this doesn't work out?3. Is this a fixable blowout, or is it time to throw the onesie away? ResourcesThis One Time in Kankakee — https://thisonetimeinkankakee.buzzsprout.com/ — Jake LaMore's storytelling podcast on the WVLI Podcast NetworkThe Art of Gathering by Priya Parker — https://www.priya-parker.com/the-art-of-gathering — source of the "check-in question" format Megan references Crisis Support988 - Suicide & Crisis LifelineText HOME to 741741 - Crisis Text Line Find a Therapist:Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/usRise & Thrive Wellness: https://riseandthrivewellness.net/ Connect With UsEmail: [email protected]: @ihavesh_ttosayTikTok: IHaveSh_tToSay CreditsHost: Megan Campbell, LCPC, ATR-BCGuest: Brian T Prairie, Raven Spring MediaGuest Producer: Jake LaMore, This One Time in KankakeeProducer: Brian T PrairieOperations Manager: MacKenzie Cloy New episodes every two weeks on Tuesdays DisclaimerThis podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment. If you are in crisis, please contact 988 or text HOME to 741741.

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