Ilyas Qazi | Shógun Grappling | What It Takes To Win | BLANC | Ben Bubb

In this episode Ben Bubb sits down with Ilyas Qazi, founder of Shōgun Grappling in Ghent, to talk about what it actually takes to win — on the mats and in life.Ilyas has spent years building Shōgun Grappling into a home for grapplers in Belgium.In this conversation, Ben and Ilyas talk through the mindset behind competing, what it takes to build something from nothing, and what "winning" really means once you strip away the medals.#mma #podcast #bjj #belgium #europe