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EPISODE · Jan 27, 2026 · 38 MIN

Influence: The Art of Influence

from Leadership Limbo · host Josh Hugo and John Clark

Summary In this episode of Leadership Limbo, hosts John Clark and Josh Hugo explore the complexities of influence and relationships in leadership. They discuss the importance of trust, the distinction between kindness and niceness, and the role of feedback in fostering healthy professional relationships. The conversation delves into the challenges of self-preservation and cynicism, emphasizing the need for managers to lower their own walls of self-preservation to effectively influence their teams. Practical applications and homework are provided to help listeners reflect on their own leadership styles and improve their influence. Takeaways Leadership is about embracing discomfort and self-awareness. Building relationships in the workplace requires trust and clarity. Kindness is more impactful than mere niceness in professional settings. Feedback is essential for growth and trust in relationships. Self-preservation can hinder effective influence and communication. Cynicism often arises from fear of vulnerability and loss. Empowering others is more effective than rescuing them. Understanding individual communication styles is crucial for influence. Balancing character and competence is key to effective leadership. Good leadership involves making space for tension and growth. You can find an image of The Influence Model here: https://share.google/rWqf9vR40eVEZFXJX)  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Leadership Limbo 02:53 The Power of Influence 04:41 Understanding Relationships in Leadership 07:55 The Difference Between Kindness and Niceness 11:42 Influence and Self-Preservation 15:38 Navigating Cynicism and Trust 19:03 Understanding Cynicism and Self-Preservation 23:16 Influence in Manager-Employee Relationships 29:02 Balancing Character and Competence 35:16 The Role of Self-Preservation in Leadership

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