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EPISODE · Feb 3, 2026 · 36 MIN

Intentional Influence with Dr. Ben Johnson and Bobby Dodd

from Productive Joy · host Dr. Christie McMullen

In this episode of Productive Joy, Dr. Christie welcomes Bobby Dodd and Dr. Ben Johnson, two educational leaders, who discuss their book 'Intentional Influence: Harnessing Cultural Mapping to Build Commitment.' Together, they explore the importance of relational networks within organizations and how cultural mapping can make invisible connections visible. They share practical strategies for fostering relationships, enhancing employee engagement, and creating a positive organizational culture. The conversation emphasizes the importance of active listening, being present, and leading from one's core values to create productive joy in the workplace.Episode Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:50 Hooking the Audience02:21 Introducing the Book: Intentional Influence02:55 The Origin Story of the Authors' Collaboration04:03 Building Relationships and Cultural Mapping10:26 Making Invisible Connections Visible16:06 Defining Productive Joy18:32 Creating Productive Joy in Practice19:50 Building Influence Through Consistency20:02 Finding Joy in Daily Interactions20:34 Creating Meaningful Connections24:07 The Importance of Active Listening28:14 Showing Up as Your Authentic Self33:21 Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts#leadershipdevelopment#intentionalleadership#productivejoy#workplaceculture#personalgrowth#professionaldevelopment#leadershipmindset#humancenteredleadership#meaningfulwork#sustainableperformanceA Deeper Dive:Ben and Bobby are more than colleagues; they are executive coaches, authors, and thought leaders in education. They have collaborated to create a unique approach emphasizing human connections in leadership, encapsulated in their book "Intentional Influence: Harnessing Cultural Mapping to Build Commitment."According to Ben and Bobby, the essence of intentional influence lies in identifying invisible cultural connections within an organization. They break this down through a process called cultural mapping, which involves recognizing the complex web of formal and informal influencers and understanding each person's role in the organization's culture. Ben poignantly describes this as making "invisible connections visible," enabling leaders to strategically build commitment, community, and capacity.Bobby emphasizes the pivotal role of relationships. He advocates for 15-minute meetings to nurture and understand the individuals within your team. These interactions aren’t just about work-related topics but delve into knowing people personally, building a foundation of trust and connectivity. The duo believes once you truly see your team members, you can channel this understanding into driving initiatives and enhancing the organizational culture.Joy at work transcends the typical motivators of authority and titles; it's about influence derived from trust, connections, and commitments. By using cultural mapping, leaders can understand how to cultivate these elements into strategies that deeply enrich organizational culture.Authenticity plays a crucial role in productive joy. Ben and Bobby discuss the importance of showing up as your true self—being present, maintaining perspective on bad days, and aligning professional goals with personal authenticity. These elements tear down barriers, creating an environment where creativity and collaboration flourish.Finally, as leaders, the conversation urges us to deepen our understanding of human-centric leadership. Being aware of existing networks within your organization and fostering genuine connections is more than just a "nice-to-have"—it is essential for creating a thriving, joyful workplace.To sum it up, if there’s one foundational takeaway, it’s that the pathways to joy and productivity often lie in how we build and leverage relationships. Actionably engaging with your staff, understanding the human within the professional, and acting with intentional influence are keys to bridging the gap between joy and productivity.

In this episode of Productive Joy, Dr. Christie welcomes Bobby Dodd and Dr. Ben Johnson, two educational leaders, who discuss their book 'Intentional Influence: Harnessing Cultural Mapping to Build Commitment.' Together, they explore the importance of relational networks within organizations and how cultural mapping can make invisible connections visible. They share practical strategies for fostering relationships, enhancing employee engagement, and creating a positive organizational culture. The conversation emphasizes the importance of active listening, being present, and leading from one's core values to create productive joy in the workplace.Episode Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:50 Hooking the Audience02:21 Introducing the Book: Intentional Influence02:55 The Origin Story of the Authors' Collaboration04:03 Building Relationships and Cultural Mapping10:26 Making Invisible Connections Visible16:06 Defining Productive Joy18:32 Creating Productive Joy in Practice19:50 Building Influence Through Consistency20:02 Finding Joy in Daily Interactions20:34 Creating Meaningful Connections24:07 The Importance of Active Listening28:14 Showing Up as Your Authentic Self33:21 Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts#leadershipdevelopment#intentionalleadership#productivejoy#workplaceculture#personalgrowth#professionaldevelopment#leadershipmindset#humancenteredleadership#meaningfulwork#sustainableperformanceA Deeper Dive:Ben and Bobby are more than colleagues; they are executive coaches, authors, and thought leaders in education. They have collaborated to create a unique approach emphasizing human connections in leadership, encapsulated in their book "Intentional Influence: Harnessing Cultural Mapping to Build Commitment."According to Ben and Bobby, the essence of intentional influence lies in identifying invisible cultural connections within an organization. They break this down through a process called cultural mapping, which involves recognizing the complex web of formal and informal influencers and understanding each person's role in the organization's culture. Ben poignantly describes this as making "invisible connections visible," enabling leaders to strategically build commitment, community, and capacity.Bobby emphasizes the pivotal role of relationships. He advocates for 15-minute meetings to nurture and understand the individuals within your team. These interactions aren’t just about work-related topics but delve into knowing people personally, building a foundation of trust and connectivity. The duo believes once you truly see your team members, you can channel this understanding into driving initiatives and enhancing the organizational culture.Joy at work transcends the typical motivators of authority and titles; it's about influence derived from trust, connections, and commitments. By using cultural mapping, leaders can understand how to cultivate these elements into strategies that deeply enrich organizational culture.Authenticity plays a crucial role in productive joy. Ben and Bobby discuss the importance of showing up as your true self—being present, maintaining perspective on bad days, and aligning professional goals with personal authenticity. These elements tear down barriers, creating an environment where creativity and collaboration flourish.Finally, as leaders, the conversation urges us to deepen our understanding of human-centric leadership. Being aware of existing networks within your organization and fostering genuine connections is more than just a "nice-to-have"—it is essential for creating a thriving, joyful workplace.To sum it up, if there’s one foundational takeaway, it’s that the pathways to joy and productivity often lie in how we build and leverage relationships. Actionably engaging with your staff, understanding the human within the professional, and acting with intentional influence are keys to bridging the gap between joy and productivity.

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