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EPISODE · Mar 18, 2026 · 33 MIN

INTERVIEW | Make Money by Building Innovation That Scales, feat. Linda Hill, Jason Wild, and Emily C. Tedards

from Travis Makes Money · host Travis Chappell

Linda Hill, Jason Wild, and Emily C. Tedards join the show to discuss what it actually takes to build organizations that innovate consistently—not just once, but over and over again. Linda Hill is a Harvard Business School professor and one of the world’s leading experts on leadership and innovation, ranked among the top management thinkers globally. Jason Wild brings the practitioner perspective, having led innovation initiatives at companies like Microsoft, Salesforce, and IBM. Emily C. Tedards is a graduate researcher in organizational behavior at Harvard Business School and a doctoral fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School. Together, they co-authored Genius at Scale, a book exploring how modern leaders create environments where innovation can thrive across teams, generations, and organizations. On this episode we talk about: Why many great ideas never get launched—and how leaders can change that The difference between leading change and leading innovation Why successful innovation requires co-creation instead of top-down leadership The power of “creative abrasion” and diverse perspectives in problem-solving How organizations can better integrate younger generations into leadership and innovation Top 3 Takeaways The best leaders don’t simply drive innovation—they build environments where people collaborate to create innovation together. Innovation leadership is about co-creation, not followership. Teams are more engaged when they feel they’re helping shape the future rather than executing someone else’s vision. Diversity of thought—including generational diversity—is a powerful advantage when solving complex problems and navigating uncertainty. Notable Quotes "Great leaders drive innovation—but they don’t drive alone." "If you want to innovate repeatedly at scale, you must create an environment where people can co-create the future together." "Innovation doesn’t happen because one person has the answer—it happens when many people bring their perspectives to the problem." Connect with the Guests: Linda Hill LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linda-hill-hbs/ Jason Wild LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonwild Emily C. Tedards LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-tedards/ Book: Genius at Scale https://www.geniusatscale.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Linda Hill, Jason Wild, and Emily C. Tedards join the show to discuss what it actually takes to build organizations that innovate consistently—not just once, but over and over again. Linda Hill is a Harvard Business School professor and one of the world’s leading experts on leadership and innovation, ranked among the top management thinkers globally. Jason Wild brings the practitioner perspective, having led innovation initiatives at companies like Microsoft, Salesforce, and IBM. Emily C. Tedards is a graduate researcher in organizational behavior at Harvard Business School and a doctoral fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School. Together, they co-authored Genius at Scale, a book exploring how modern leaders create environments where innovation can thrive across teams, generations, and organizations. On this episode we talk about: Why many great ideas never get launched—and how leaders can change that The difference between leading change and leading innovation Why successful innovation requires co-creation instead of top-down leadership The power of “creative abrasion” and diverse perspectives in problem-solving How organizations can better integrate younger generations into leadership and innovation Top 3 Takeaways The best leaders don’t simply drive innovation—they build environments where people collaborate to create innovation together. Innovation leadership is about co-creation, not followership. Teams are more engaged when they feel they’re helping shape the future rather than executing someone else’s vision. Diversity of thought—including generational diversity—is a powerful advantage when solving complex problems and navigating uncertainty. Notable Quotes "Great leaders drive innovation—but they don’t drive alone." "If you want to innovate repeatedly at scale, you must create an environment where people can co-create the future together." "Innovation doesn’t happen because one person has the answer—it happens when many people bring their perspectives to the problem." Connect with the Guests: Linda Hill LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linda-hill-hbs/ Jason Wild LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonwild Emily C. Tedards LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-tedards/ Book: Genius at Scale https://www.geniusatscale.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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