INTERVIEW | Make Money by Building Trust: Social Media, Psychology, and Becoming the Go-To Expert

What do a Jungian psychologist and a workers' rights attorney have in common? More than you'd think. In this compilation episode, Travis sits down with Lisa Marchiano, a Jungian analyst, author, and co-host of This Jungian Life*, and Attorney Ryan, an employment lawyer whose educational content has earned him millions of followers online. Together, they explore how sharing valuable expertise online can build a thriving business, why purpose and education outperform viral trends, and how helping people solve real problems naturally creates opportunity. On this episode we talk about: How Lisa Marchiano turned her passion for Jungian psychology into a successful creator business The role of the unconscious mind, creativity, and meaning in personal and professional growth Why Attorney Ryan built a massive audience by simplifying labor laws for everyday workers Common workplace misconceptions about employment rights and employer responsibilities How authenticity, education, and consistency create long-term influence on social media Top 3 Takeaways Mission comes before monetization. Lisa Marchiano attributes her entrepreneurial success to staying focused on helping people first, allowing income to become the byproduct rather than the goal. Your expertise becomes more valuable when you make it accessible. Attorney Ryan grew his brand by translating complex legal concepts into practical advice that empowers both employees and employers. Creativity often comes from trusting ideas before you fully understand them. Jung's perspective on the unconscious encourages people to embrace intuition and experimentation instead of waiting for certainty. Notable Quotes "If it helps, it's true." "The unconscious can be creative." "Hard work has no intrinsic value." Connect with Lisa Marchiano & Attorney Ryan: Lisa Marchiano Services: https://www.lisamarchianotherapy.com/ Website: https://www.lisamarchiano.com/ Podcast: https://thisjungianlife.com/ Attorney Ryan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/attorneyryan/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@attorneyryan Website: https://attorneyryan.com/ A Word from Our Sponsors: - Visit DrinkAG1.com/TMM to get a free AG1 Travel Case with 7 free AG1Travel Packs in your Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription order while supplies last.  - Go to Leesa.com for 30% OFF select mattresses (through July 12, 2026) PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code TMM, exclusive for my listeners  - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go to https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney -Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices