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EPISODE · Jul 10, 2026 · 33 MIN

INTERVIEW | Make Money by Writing Books That Build Your Business

from Travis Makes Money · host Travis Chappell

What does it take to write a book that actually makes an impact? In this compilation episode, Travis brings together three bestselling authors and accomplished leaders—David Epstein, Dave Berke, and Mark Divine—to share their hard-earned lessons on writing, leadership, entrepreneurship, and building lasting credibility. From the disciplined writing process to the importance of authenticity and patience, this episode is packed with practical insights for anyone looking to create meaningful work that stands the test of time. On this episode we talk about: Why great books begin with deep research, thoughtful planning, and clear constraints How military leadership principles translate directly into entrepreneurship and business The challenges—and rewards—of writing a book that truly reflects your expertise Why authenticity and personal experience matter more than writing a book just for credibility How founders can build stronger businesses by hiring great leaders and focusing on their unique strengths Top 3 Takeaways The best writing happens long before the first draft—careful research, planning, and defining clear boundaries make the execution dramatically easier. Leadership principles like humility, discipline, and ownership work across every environment, whether you're leading troops, running a company, or building a personal brand. Don't write a book because you think you should. Write one because you have a unique perspective and a message that's compelling enough that it has to come out. Notable Quotes "Think slow, act fast." "Everything worth doing is on the other side of a bunch of struggle." "If you want to make money with your business as a founder, you ultimately have to get out of the way." Connect with the Guests: David Epstein Website: https://davidepstein.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-epstein Dave Berke Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidrberke/ Echelon Front: https://echelonfront.com Mark Divine Website: https://markdivine.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdivine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realmarkdivine A Word from Our Sponsors: - Visit DrinkAG1.com/TMM to get a free AG1 Travel Case with 7 free AG1Travel Packs in your Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription order while supplieslast.  - Go to Leesa.com for 30% OFF select mattresses (through July 12, 2026) PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code TMM, exclusive for my listeners  - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go to https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney -Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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