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EPISODE · May 27, 2026 · 30 MIN

Is Allyship Just a Conversation? Real Stories, Real Tools, Real Leadership

from Not Like Me · host Stephanie Chung

In this solo episode of Not Like Me, I reflect on my conversation with Dr. Brad Johnson and go deeper on what allyship actually looks like in practice…for men, for women, and for every leader navigating today's complex workplace.I share personal stories from my 40-year career in corporate America, including my time in the airline and private aviation industries, that illustrate why the conversation around workplace inclusion, gender equity, and allyship is not just still relevant, it is more urgent than ever.Women are still making 80 cents on the dollar. Leaders are still staying silent in the moments that matter. And most of us still do not know what to do when we are interrupted, overlooked, or talked past in a meeting.In this episode I cover:Why allyship has a real cost and what leaders need to understand about thatWhat to say when you get interrupted in a meetingHow to show up as an ally without overcomplicating itWhy awareness without action is just noiseThe ALLY framework: Ask, Listen, Learn, You Take ActionWhat real allyship looks like in the moments most leaders missThis episode is for leaders at every level who are ready to stop talking about inclusion and start doing something about it.If this conversation is landing, The Modern Leader’s Toolkit is the practical next step to learn the five disciplines built around A.L.L.Y. Download The Modern Leader’s Toolkit → https://learn.stephaniechung.com/leader-toolkit

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