EPISODE · May 28, 2024 · 1H 57M
Is This An Atrocity? (with Jeremy Loeb)
from The Simple Heart w/ Wayne Hsiung · host Wayne Hsiung
Among the most important philosophers of our era – Peter Singer and Martha Nussbaum and Yuval Noah Hariri – animal agriculture is a historic atrocity. In both the scale and severity of suffering, there has never been an episode in history where so much evil has been inflicted, and so many. And yet even animal rights advocates rarely speak of what happens to animals in such terms. Why? I speak to Jeremy Loeb, formerly a journalist and radio host with NPR affiliates in North Carolina and Alabama, about this question. And the answer we come to is surprising: maybe, for us to speak or even believe what the moral philosophers tell us, we have to take action, first. Follow Jeremy on Instagram & YouTube: https://www.instagram.com/loebjeremy/ https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Jeremy’s interview with Tami Fitzgerald (2016): https://www.bpr.org/news/2016-04-13/hb2-supporter-dismisses-corporate-backlash-says-companies-have-been-lied-to Writer Mike White interview Terry Gross on show Fresh Air (2008): https://freshairarchive.org/segments/mike-white-goes-dog Jeremy’s speak-out on April 4th: https://www.instagram.com/p/C5WbysdpDRJ/ The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org! Video Chapters: Chapter 1 00:00-4:37 Intro Chapter 2 4:38-9:57 Jeremy working at NPR Chapter 3 9:58-20:47 Ridglan Trial - lack of dog abuse media coverage Chapter 4 20:48-28:59 Performative Media - what journalists say vs. their biased opinions Chapter 5 29:00-39:03 Types of humor - humor of the bullied vs. humor of the bully Chapter 6 39:04-49:26 Well-run institutions should not fall into the echo chamber Chapter 7 49:27-53:12 Recognizing atrocities & taking action Chapter 8 53:13-57:39 Why aren’t people rescuing animals & what animals feel Chapter 9 57:40-1:05:14 Family Expectations Chapter 10 1:05:15-1:07:13 Not knowing the truth or doing stuff that matters Chapter 11 1:07:14-1:47:39 Wayne’s criminal trial Chapter 12 1h:47:40-1:53:20 If we win Wayne’s Sonoma Trial appeal & other inspiring moments Chapter 13 1h:53:21-1:54:09 Jeremy’s YouTube Channel & supporting a network of activists Chapter 14 1h:54:10-1:57:01: Ending with book quote from “Eternal Treblinka” & outro
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Among the most important philosophers of our era – Peter Singer and Martha Nussbaum and Yuval Noah Hariri – animal agriculture is a historic atrocity. In both the scale and severity of suffering, there has never been an episode in history where so much evil has been inflicted, and so many. And yet even animal rights advocates rarely speak of what happens to animals in such terms. Why? I speak to Jeremy Loeb, formerly a journalist and radio host with NPR affiliates in North Carolina and Alabama, about this question. And the answer we come to is surprising: maybe, for us to speak or even believe what the moral philosophers tell us, we have to take action, first. Follow Jeremy on Instagram & YouTube: https://www.instagram.com/loebjeremy/ https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Jeremy’s interview with Tami Fitzgerald (2016): https://www.bpr.org/news/2016-04-13/hb2-supporter-dismisses-corporate-backlash-says-companies-have-been-lied-to Writer Mike White interview Terry Gross on show Fresh Air (2008): https://freshairarchive.org/segments/mike-white-goes-dog Jeremy’s speak-out on April 4th: https://www.instagram.com/p/C5WbysdpDRJ/ The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org! Video Chapters: Chapter 1 00:00-4:37 Intro Chapter 2 4:38-9:57 Jeremy working at NPR Chapter 3 9:58-20:47 Ridglan Trial - lack of dog abuse media coverage Chapter 4 20:48-28:59 Performative Media - what journalists say vs. their biased opinions Chapter 5 29:00-39:03 Types of humor - humor of the bullied vs. humor of the bully Chapter 6 39:04-49:26 Well-run institutions should not fall into the echo chamber Chapter 7 49:27-53:12 Recognizing atrocities & taking action Chapter 8 53:13-57:39 Why aren’t people rescuing animals & what animals feel Chapter 9 57:40-1:05:14 Family Expectations Chapter 10 1:05:15-1:07:13 Not knowing the truth or doing stuff that matters Chapter 11 1:07:14-1:47:39 Wayne’s criminal trial Chapter 12 1h:47:40-1:53:20 If we win Wayne’s Sonoma Trial appeal & other inspiring moments Chapter 13 1h:53:21-1:54:09 Jeremy’s YouTube Channel & supporting a network of activists Chapter 14 1h:54:10-1:57:01: Ending with book quote from “Eternal Treblinka” & outro
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