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EPISODE · Sep 14, 2023 · 52 MIN

Jack Tupper Part 1

from Morbid · host Ash Kelley & Alaina Urquhart

On August 6, 1978, the body of thirty-five-year-old bar owner Jack Tupper was found in a vacant lot in the Bronx, just across the street from the local firehouse. His face had been severely slashed, his head and body badly beaten, he had been shot seven times, and finally, he had been set on fire. Witnesses reported seeing a small group of men in the lot attempting to set fire to a box earlier that day, including three witnesses who identified former racehorse trainer Howard “Buddy” Jacobson as one of the men, and one who was able to provide detectives with the license plate number of the car they were driving.Buddy Jacobson was quickly arrested for Tupper’s murder and the story quickly became New York’s latest scandal: Former horse trainer murders man in love triangle. Jacobson had indeed killed Tupper because the younger man was having an affair with Jacobson’s girlfriend but, while the motive may have been a classic, the story was far more sensational and salacious than anyone could have expected, and it turned out the arrest was just the beginning.Thank you to David White for research assistance :)Resources: Allen, Joy. 1978. "Family is embittered in 'triangle' slaying." Newsday, August 9: 17.Arnett, Peter, and Jane See White. 1978. "Life and death on fast track for a model." Newsday, August 21: 4.Associated Press. 1979. "Jacobson defense alleges cocaine plot by victim." Newsday, October 11: 19.—. 1979. "'Triangle' case hearing could clear defendant." The Journal News, October 24: 4.Christine, Bill. 1988. "The odyssey of Buddy Jacobson: Horses, models and a murder sentence." Los Angeles Times, January 10.Cummings, John, and Peggy Brown. 1980. "Buddy Jacobson escapes prison." Newsday, June 01: 3.Cummings, Jophn, and Joy Allen. 1978. "'Triangle' murder probers hear horseman's ex-wife." Newsday, August 16: 17.Fried, Joseph P. 1980. "Jacobson's 'friends and relatives' said to have helped in recapture." New York Times, July 11: A1. New York, NY: Macmillan.—. 1978. "Love and Death on the Upper East Side." New York Magazine, September 11.McFadden, Robert D. 1979. "'Gag' order covers murder trial." New York Times, October 23: B8.McFadden, Robert. 1980. "Jacobson, in calls from jail, speaks of his 'betrayal'." New York Times, 07 July: A1.New York Times. 1978. "Jacobson warned of bail revocation." New York Times, November 10: B7.Newton, Edmund, and Sheryl Kornman. 1980. "Cops hunt Buddy Jacobson around the world." Newsday, June 2: 4.The Reporter Dispatch. August. "Hunt widens in triangle slaying." The Reporter Dispatch, 10 1978: D14. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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On August 6, 1978, the body of thirty-five-year-old bar owner Jack Tupper was found in a vacant lot in the Bronx, just across the street from the local firehouse. His face had been severely slashed, his head and body badly beaten, he had been shot seven times, and finally, he had been set on fire. Witnesses reported seeing a small group of men in the lot attempting to set fire to a box earlier that day, including three witnesses who identified former racehorse trainer Howard “Buddy” Jacobson as one of the men, and one who was able to provide detectives with the license plate number of the car they were driving. Buddy Jacobson was quickly arrested for Tupper’s murder and the story quickly became New York’s latest scandal: Former horse trainer murders man in love triangle. Jacobson had indeed killed Tupper because the younger man was having an affair with Jacobson’s girlfriend but, while the motive may have been a classic, the story was far more sensational and salacious than anyone could have expected, and it turned out the arrest was just the beginning. Thank you to David White for research assistance :) Resources: Allen, Joy. 1978. "Family is embittered in 'triangle' slaying." Newsday, August 9: 17. Arnett, Peter, and Jane See White. 1978. "Life and death on fast track for a model." Newsday, August 21: 4. Associated Press. 1979. "Jacobson defense alleges cocaine plot by victim." Newsday, October 11: 19. —. 1979. "'Triangle' case hearing could clear defendant." The Journal News, October 24: 4. Christine, Bill. 1988. "The odyssey of Buddy Jacobson: Horses, models and a murder sentence." Los Angeles Times, January 10. Cummings, John, and Peggy Brown. 1980. "Buddy Jacobson escapes prison." Newsday, June 01: 3. Cummings, Jophn, and Joy Allen. 1978. "'Triangle' murder probers hear horseman's ex-wife." Newsday, August 16: 17. Fried, Joseph P. 1980. "Jacobson's 'friends and relatives' said to have helped in recapture." New York Times, July 11: A1.     New York, NY: Macmillan. —. 1978. "Love and Death on the Upper East Side." New York Magazine, September 11. McFadden, Robert D. 1979. "'Gag' order covers murder trial." New York Times, October 23: B8. McFadden, Robert. 1980. "Jacobson, in calls from jail, speaks of his 'betrayal'." New York Times, 07 July: A1. New York Times. 1978. "Jacobson warned of bail revocation." New York Times, November 10: B7. Newton, Edmund, and Sheryl Kornman. 1980. "Cops hunt Buddy Jacobson around the world." Newsday, June 2: 4. The Reporter Dispatch. August. "Hunt widens in triangle slaying." The Reporter Dispatch, 10 1978: D14.

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The bebbe. In the temporal fold. Is that what that is? There you go.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I have a love triangle this week.

Oh boy. And it all starts off with some jackass named Buddy. You know, it always starts off with some jackass named Buddy. You know, really his name was Harold, but they called him Buddy.

I don't really know why. Those are always my favorite when the nickname has literally nothing to fucking do with the original name and somehow it's exactly as long or longer sometimes than the original name. Yeah, you're saving one letter there. Harold's Buddy.

That takes you to the exact same amount of time to say. Yeah. Well, either way. Harold, Buddy, Jacob said, and he was born on December 10th, 1930 in Brooklyn, New York.

The 30s. The 30s, yeah. It wasn't a great time. I was gonna say not a great time.

I was born in New York. So Florence and Joseph, also known as Sam, Jacobson. I don't know if I was just like his middle name. You know what his name is Joseph.

Let's call him Sam. Yeah. I don't know. But he was the youngest of their two kids.

He had an older sister. And by most accounts, his early life was pretty unremarkable. It was the beginning of the Great Depression, like I just said, and like most families living through that, the Jacobson struggled to get by on a very modest income, which was made even more modest by Sam Jacobson's fucking gamble in ways. Oh no.

Come on. It's the Great Depression. Like what are you even gambling for? That's the thing.

What are you using to gamble? What do you using to gamble? What does anyone have to give you? Now when Buddy was about 10 years old, his father left the family to live with his mistress.

And that asshole not only left his family to go move in with his mistress, but they moved in a few doors down from his wife and kids. That's unsettling. Like talk about tension. You got to be a real gross couple of humans to do that.

You're a real fucked up individual. Yeah. You're real gross. You know what?

I have an insult generator up here somewhere. Oh, you still have that up? I keep it up. I keep it up.

I keep it up for when I need it. What an, what a pompous taintound that guy is. I don't like that one at all. A pompous taintound.

I don't know about that. Pompous for sure. Sounds correct. Yeah.

Well, so it was very tension filled. So do I'm just moving on right along from that? It's probably a good idea. Yeah.

So to escape this to a whole place. I'm on cold medicine, everybody. Are you sure? I haven't taken any because I don't react well to that and it makes my dreams all weird.

I react great to it, apparently. I don't know about that. I might argue different. I don't know about that.

You sure about that? Why are we just ticked off? But okay, so it's stressful because you know, Buddy's dad just moved in with his new mommy down the door. So that's not good.

But to escape from that, Buddy spent most of his time playing in the street with the neighborhood kids. And this was where he developed a very, very fierce competitive streak. I'm sure you can relate that he would carry with him for the rest of his life. Yours is like a normal competitive streak for those hearts.

His takes yours and sends it to the moon, Alice. Oh, no. Well, now I feel competitive that his competitive streak is better than mine. Oh my goodness.

It should have slept on a common. So according to one childhood friend, Buddy was unstoppable. They said Buddy was the yo-yo champ. He was the handball champ.

He was the ping-pong champ. Okay. So they said it is. All right.

He was a fucking champ. Oh, he didn't meet me. And most of his life going forward, obviously, was his father's abandonment of his family. That should stick with you.

Yeah, I imagine it would. Yeah. First-hand experience right here. Now, as a teenager, he would tell very elaborate lies about his family and like where his family came from.

He would tell his friends and his peers that he was Italian rather than Jewish. He actually was Jewish and that he had been actually adopted by the Jacob sins as a baby. And that his real father is quote unquote gangster father, who perished in a gory shootout with the law. I mean, that's a story.

I mean, who wouldn't tell that story? I'm going to tell that story from now on. Tell that story. Yeah.

Yeah. And then he came from and they only knew it because it came out if he was very emotional or if his friends pride the truth out of him after quite a few drinks. Yeah. And that's usually when the truth comes out.

So even though he probably rather not acknowledged his past, it was Buddy's family history that actually led him to the horse track, which is where much of this beginning. Oh, I forgot to mention this is going to be two parts. Oh, too bada. Too bada.

But the first part of this we're going to talk a lot about the horse track because when he was just 11 years old, Buddy began working for his uncle Jean Jacobs, which it's funny that his uncle's last name is Jacob's and his is Jacob's and it makes me wonder if like it got shortened, but then some people didn't recognize the shortened version of it. Perhaps. You know what I'm saying? What you're talking about?

Ellis Island? Yeah. Talking about the infamous Ellis Island. That one.

Yeah, I don't know. But it's uncle Jean Jacobs and he started working for him and he was his job was basically walking the exercise courses, which were referred to as hots because they were like, oh, the hot from the exercise. I just think that's my guess. So he would walk them back to the stables.

He would clean up the stalls and just do like all the low stakes tasks that needed to be done. Now, after a while, Buddy actually saw more of a future in horses than he did in high school. So he ended up quitting school and he followed his uncle to Florida where he kept working as a stable boy for 25 bucks a week, which was or in today's calculations, it would be a little more than 300 bucks a week. Oh, so for high school, that's a pretty decent job.

Really good. Yeah. And he worked his way up the ladder pretty quickly and soon he became foreman of the stables, which is a big fucking deal when it comes to buses. The boss.

Yeah. Now by 1952, he received his assistant trainer's license and getting that license actually allowed him to break away from his uncle's business and strike out on his own in the horse business. Now for the Jacobs and Jacobs and families who had always been really close, Buddy's determination to rise quickly in the profession wasn't really a surprise. His uncle Jean said, I put him on when I didn't need him and he just made himself needed.

He was a very hard worker, very devoted to the job. Look at him. He brought them to the races. So not long after gaining his license, Buddy started training two horses like his sister Rita owned.

And once they were ready, he brought them to the races. He was off to the races like Lana. Yeah. Yeah.

And he brought them to the races in New York and he won with them. Look at him. So obviously he's pretty encouraged now. So he took on, he took those horses to the more competitive tracks in Florida.

Oh, that's where you go. Yeah, always go to Florida. Never. Buddy was a Florida man.

Oh, no. Honestly, that's not good. And when he took them to Florida, they did great there. He continued a streak of wins.

So more and more wins start stacking up for Buddy and soon he had made a pretty good name for himself as a horse trainer. He was signing contracts with new clients to train their horses. And more importantly, while the winds helped to build a reputation, they also included a percentage of the purse, which was the cash prize awarded to the winning horse and the jockey. So that placed him in a high attacks bracket and it gave him a solidly upper middle class lifestyle.

Look at Buddy. He was living that swanky life. Oh man. So in the mid 1950s, he actually ended up meeting and marrying a woman named Joan Miller.

And pretty soon after they got married, they welcomed a son together David. That would be Buddy's only child. And this new life that Buddy was living was a pretty far cry from how he'd grown up and from what he was used to him. Yeah.

And then in his opinion, not in so many great ways. Oh, because maybe some of this family life wasn't really for him. Yeah. He wasn't super interested in that domestic lifestyle.

Wasn't that interested in being a husband or really a dad? Oh, you know what? Those are two things that you should have interested in if you become a husband and a dad. Yeah, that's what most people say.

It's those are the two key key things in the handbook. Yeah. You know, but Buddy, he just really wanted to be the best, not the best father or the best husband, but just the best overall. Yeah, don't worry about those two things.

No, so he's talking that. No, no, no, no, don't worry about that. So he found home life really stifling. Now, stability and harmony at home might have made him feel disconnected, I guess, when he came to his family life.

But those were the two main things that drove him professionally, interestingly enough. In 1958, he ended up getting hired by a Wall Street trader named Bill Frankel to train a horse that Bill had recently bought. And Buddy wasn't actually able to replicate his earlier success with the Frankel's horse. He won only one race in the first eight months.

Damn. But for some reason, Bill Frankel took an immediate liking to Buddy and he decided to stick with him. And Buddy later said to the Frankel's, they never complained. You don't find good sports like them every day.

Old sport, old sport. And that's weird that you sound like because I made a Gatsby reference in this later. Of course you did, you have to. Yeah, of course.

Yeah. So things started to turn around for Buddy a few years later. And he was running to second on the list of leading New York trainers in 1960. Just behind his uncle, Jean Jacobs.

Oh, so you broke away from the uncle, but you haven't beat him yet. But two years later, Buddy did surpass Uncle Jean and took the top spot on the 1962 list with 64 wins. Wow. But the success really didn't do much to endure Buddy to those around him.

Bill Frankel might have liked him, but really nobody else did. His success really only kind of exacerbated that arrogance and overly competitive spirit that people already knew was there. And when he was announced as the top trainer in New York, a reporter asked Buddy what he had learned from his uncle's experiences in the business. And without hesitating Buddy replied, they've taught me nothing.

They don't come near me at the track. I'm up to beat him and they know it. He literally was just like, fuck him. Wow.

Just like a true good sport. Like if his uncle hadn't taken him on, he wouldn't have learned any of this. And he's like, damn. All right.

So rude. Wow. It's like a classic case of not remembering where you come from. Yeah, exactly.

It's just like a race at all. I did it all. Get out of here. I don't think so, sir.

You're not that self-made. No, Buddy. No. No.

I remember Buddy being like that as a child and they would continue to remember him the same way even after he died. Oh, no. But his winning streak did continue and it came with more and more money. In 1963, he was named America's top horse trainer.

Damn. I didn't even know it was a thing. I didn't either. But he had nearly twice as many wins to his name as compared to his uncle.

Wow. No, not long after he was living that big life. So he decided to buy two apartment buildings in Queens and merged them together to create one massive home for his family. And he hired a live in maid.

Damn. Yeah, he was living the big life. He sure was. I just was a swanky fellow.

The money, the property and the other extravagances were a testament to his professional success, but they really didn't do much to improve the rift that had started growing between him and his wife, Joan, for quite some time. I was wondering where Joan was and all this. She's not really in all of this when in Buddy said at least later, Buddy's assistant Frank Pajano explained the strain to reporters saying, well, what happened was she wanted to go out to a movie once in a while, just to a movie, nothing fancy, but Buddy didn't care to. He only loved the horses.

Wouldn't ask. So you wouldn't even take her to a fucking movie. That's an asshole move. That's a dick move.

You don't need a wife. No. You could have kept on living this bachelor life and stacking up the winds. Very a horse.

Sounds like he wasn't even that like he didn't like care about the horses that much. He just like winning. So now he's in his early 30s and his life is consumed by horses and his continuous drive to be the best. But like I was just saying, for all his interest in horses, they didn't really seem to make him feel anything on a deeper level.

It wasn't that animal that he loved. Like I just said, it was the winning and the superiority he held over the horses. He told his assistant, you can't have an attachment to a horse. It indicated that he was disgusted by them in general.

Ew. Yeah. That's gross. Like it disgusted by the animal that made him as wealthy as he was in the place.

Also, horses are like the sweetest animals. And they're so majestic. How the fuck don't you like a horse? You ever look in a horse's eyes?

Not often. I was like, I don't know where to go with it. I was not. But I feel like you could get lost in them.

You could. I do feel that way. I don't have any evidence to back that up because I myself have never looked in a horse's eyes. But it's just this innate feeling inside.

She just points into her chest. It's just an innate feeling inside. I feel that. Yeah.

I was a little bit afraid of horses for a while. I'm still afraid of horses. Yeah, they're just so big. So big.

So powerful. So I'm going to throw you off in a second. Yeah, there's a lot happening there. I'm terrified of them.

But they're beautiful. I sure do love to look at them. My mother loves horses. There you go.

So it seemed to buddy's assistant Frank there that all buddy really cared about was the acquisition of things, material things that he could hold up as evidence of his success. And then by extension, at least as far as he was concerned, they those things placed his value as a person or like, staked his value as a person. Yeah, that's not a good way to be. And this is what I said.

It's giving Tom Buchanan from the Great Cats being 100% of this. Thank you. But the problem was when it came to buddy, nothing was ever enough. By the mid 1960s, he had become kind of a celebrity and he was making more money than he had ever even made.

But he was spending it just as fast as it was coming in. He's one of those stories. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he lost so much.

Oh, no. His relationship with his wife had all but ended. They continued to stay married on paper, but they were not married in life. Joan managed to home.

She cared for their son and queens. Of course you did. Well, buddy, just started having one affair after the other. He never really dated much before getting married.

And I think breaking those generational cycles, you know? Yes, seriously. And I think the fact that he never dated much before getting married was kind of detrimental in his case because once he realized that there was women out there that didn't care that he was married, it was like he needed to catch up on what he had missed out on or like felt like he had missed out on. All their Anthony Hating guest wrote, it was as if he'd opened the door with an enchanted key.

That's a beautiful way of saying, I know, he started fucking women outside of marriage. It's a beautiful way to say it. What a nice way of saying that people was a help. Yeah.

Once upon a time, not long ago, he was a help. There you go. And soon he was married to Joan Jacobson really in name only. That's about it.

He didn't really have a lot of trouble attracting women because like I said, he had become kind of a celebrity in the wealthy New York circles. Yeah. But the women he was dating, not a lot of them stuck around for very long. They were there for like a good time, not a long time.

Yeah. And the ones who did stick around were really only staying as long as they did because he was paying their bills. Exactly. I was looking at that.

Yeah. And I convinced Buddy that he no longer needed Joan. So in the mid to late 1960s, he moved out of the apartment and just never looked back again. They were still married, but he just ditched her.

Cool. Very cool. Just like you hated your dad. I was gonna say again.

Then you did the exact same thing to your, not only your wife, but your son. Yeah. You did another cycle like you're starting to write over real shitty, real shitty later after his eventual arrest. Oh.

A reporter asked him whether he was getting any emotional support from Joan. And he replied, I haven't seen her for 10 to 15 years. Yeah, fuck that. Why would you give him any emotional support?

I'd be like, good luck. I think that reporter was just like, hey, are you getting any support from the wife you left? Yeah. No, like most things in Buddy's life, which I'm sure you're catching on to a pattern here, Joan was just another one of those things that validated his worth and that he could hold up as an as evidence of his success.

So when she didn't serve either of those purposes anymore, he just left her. Just cast her aside. Mm hmm. And his ability to sever ties with things that didn't serve him was like very sane, like scary.

And I think it was another hallmark of his life going back as far as childhood. And like most of his other personality traits, it only got worse when he became an adult. Former horse owner, Sam LaFrax, he's me, said about Buddy as a personality. He was a loner and he didn't like anybody telling him what to do.

I mean, yeah, sounds like it. You're like, relatable. I was going to say, I don't want to say relatable because he sounds like a Nimrod, but he isn't a Nimrod. But you can relate to being a loner and not like the people telling you.

Yeah, I can absolutely relate to that. I don't like how many similarities we have. Yeah, I don't have many, many things that are different. You're very different.

So many different things. I don't like people telling you what to do either. I consider myself a loner though. Yeah, I would never get some.

Fuck that. Yeah. But by the late 1960s, Buddy had actually been elected president of the New York Division of the Horseman's Benevolent and Protective Association. Look at this guy.

He's killing it kind of. And almost immediately though, because he's not really killing it, his personality put him at odds with the New York Racing Association. Now, this is interesting. The reason he was at odds with them was because he was demanding that a pension fund be established for the stable hands.

And when the Racing Association refused, Buddy demanded a boycott. Sorry, writer strike. And in April of 1969, the union ended up going on strike. Wow.

So this kind of sounds like it was a good deed on his end. But despite how it might have looked, most people believed that the strike had a lot less to do with him supporting low wage workers than it actually did with his insatiable need for power and control over literally everything. Yeah. Sports writer Pete Akhthelm said, I don't think he cared about Puerto Rican stable hands.

I think he wanted to prove that he, Buddy Jacobson, could overturn the whole power structure. Yeah. That's what it's talking about with him. It does.

So eventually the Racing Association did cave and they agreed to the pension fund. And this shows you like what happened and what Buddy's real intentions were. They put Buddy in control of the finances. But unfortunately, his arrogance caught up with him just nine days after taking over the pension fund.

Wow. During an audit performed by the Racing Association, the accountants noticed several irregularities and misrepresentations in the books. Oh, shocking. And he moved Buddy from his post and they suspended him for 45 days.

But the blow to his ego was too big. So he just decided to leave racing for good. Wow. That's they tried to suspend him for 45 days for essentially or allegedly stealing money.

That's a baby move and he said, I'm going to leave racing for good. That's a big baby move. I literally said, guys, the definition of a petulant child. Truly, like that's such a big baby move.

He he's such a baby. Such a baby. This guy's a roast. So now we considerably more free time than he had quite literally ever had, but he shifted his focus back to his new interests in women and property.

He was spending more and more time at his quote unquote bachelor apartment in a building in Queens. And one of his short term girlfriends later remembered the building as being quote full of stewardesses, all of whom seemed to interest in Buddy. She elaborated, but he had a Cadillac. He would leave it out in the front for other girls to use.

The place was full of girls. He could never go with the same girl more than once or twice. He lost interest. He would chase some girl sending her flowers all the time.

But if he heard that she was going with somebody else, he just lost interest. Wow. He's just like a play a play a play. He's just a play a hmm.

Now, all things may have been going well for Buddy and his personal life, I guess you could say his professional life was taking hit after hit because he just not suspended from this racing business and then just decided to be with all together. It was just like fuck it. So 1970, he made a very random move and just invested rather heavily in a ski resort in Vermont. That's what you do when you leave your profession.

You know, what? Like where did that come from? That's gonna ski resort in Vermont. Obviously.

That's what in my head, I was like, you know, what he really should do next is Vermont ski resort. Yeah. Boom. So I'm glad I'm glad that's how things are going.

And you would think that'd be a pretty good investment because like Vermont skiing, sure, people love this ski. Vermont is snowy. Makes sense, you know, but and I'm sure as this is going to come as a huge shock, it didn't take long before his personality started to rub people the wrong way. Oh buddy.

One of the other investors, I'm just saying investigators, one of the other investors said, he wanted to show that he could run a ski lodge better than people who had been running them all their lives. Oh, see, that's a rookie move. No one in there thinking you can tell people what to do when you haven't been in that business. That's the worst kind of person when they come into your field and try to tell you how to do your job that you've been doing for the longest fucking time.

And they think they can do it better than you. It goes right up your ass. Walk the other way. Walk the other way.

Talk the other way. Walk the other way. Get all out of here. That's what they said to buddy.

And that's what I would say to somebody too. That's what I would say. Fuck off. That sucks.

So when the resort didn't work out, buddy shifted his attention back to New York, of course, and he just bought an apartment building on East 84th Street, as one does. Imagine just being like, I guess I'll just buy a building, I suppose. I guess since my heavy investment turned out, I'll buy a whole fucking building in New York. You know, so he took over every role from operations to screening to rental applications on this building.

Wow. And it was there that he met Melanie Kane. She was a transplant from Virginia, who had just moved to New York in 1973. And her goal was to pursue a modeling career with the Eileen Ford modeling agency.

Eileen Ford's husband, Jerry, who kind of sounds like a dick to me, recalled of Kane. She was very pleasant. She was a very pleasant kid, but kind of naive. She had a bit of a weight problem.

Good mouth, good teeth. That was her husband. That was her husband Eileen Ford's husband that said that about Melanie Kane. Oh, okay.

Not about Eileen. Okay. For a second, I mean, that's still what the fuck. But I was like, oh, like a bit of a way to remember your wife.

Also, a bit of a weight problem. Please look up a picture of Melanie Kane. Yeah. And I just thought that's like, yeah, yeah, good teeth.

Good mouth. Good teeth. Good mouth. What does that even mean?

I got to go. But he was way better than Jerry G for credit for because within less than a year at the agency, Melanie's career was taking off. And if you're looking at it right now, I'm sure you can see why. Yeah.

In March of 1974, she actually appeared on the cover of Seventeen magazine, which used to be my personal favorite. And her face was seemingly everywhere after that. I read it from Seventeen wrote, everything about Melanie is refreshing. She's the image of everything wholesome, like Kellogg's corn flakes.

Yeah. Not apple pie or anything. Everything wholesome, like Kellogg's corn flakes. What a way, what a descriptor.

The Seventeen. And actually being compared to corn flakes. Yeah, that would be strange. The way that I would feel about that.

I feel like I'm not really sure. What about me? Like, is that an insult or? Some like apple pie, but always like the initial, you know.

And that writer could have gone places with that because she lived in New York. Big apple pie. That's a thing. Big apple pie, not Kellogg's corn flakes.

Yeah. I guess they are wholesome, I suppose. I guess. So remember, Melanie needs body at this apartment building.

Maybe it was her naivete. But Melanie was almost immediately drawn to body, not something that most people experienced often. Yeah, apparently. He was almost 20 years older than she was.

And he was nothing like the male models that she had dated when she first arrived in New York. To her, he seemed down to earth. He didn't seem to care too much about his appearance, which I don't really know what I thought is a good thing. And he had a confidence she said she found irresistible.

You're right. Within a few months of Melanie appearing on the cover of 17, buddy ended up talking her into leaving Eileen Ford and starting a modeling agency with him who had quite literally never been in the business of modeling or running a modeling agency. Wow. Here he goes again.

But he did it with her. Yeah. And they named the modeling agency my fair lady. My fair lady.

That kind of limits you, doesn't it? It does. Yeah. Absolutely.

In like an assortment of ways. A myriad of ways. Yeah. But unlike his career in horse training where he worked his way up from the bottom, but he's foray into the modeling industry was a lot more like his experience with the ski resort.

It was the product of overconfidence and spiteful determination. You know, and that's the thing. You can go into things. The way that you just like move your drink to the stop.

I drink down for this because you can go into that. I'm all for having stupid confidence and spiteful determination and spiteful determination. I myself am fueled by spiteful determination and stupid confidence. I don't know, but I do have the spiteful part.

Like I assume I can do anything and that's the way it is. And but you got to go and do that and like I can do this, but also learning from people who know how to do that. Exactly. That's the whole point is you go in and you go fuck, I can do this.

I can learn how to do this. I can go into this thing. I don't know and just suddenly know how to do it. The whole game here is you take lessons from other people and you learn and you grow and you say, okay, well, once I have all this information, I can be the best at this.

That's okay. Go in like that. By all means, this clown is going into places where he's never had any experience at all. And he's not going, okay, I can learn from people and I can really, I can really do well at this and be the best and become the best.

Yeah, he's just going and being like, no, I know how to do it better. Yeah, he's going in thinking he's the best, not wanting to become the best. And that's the difference. Exactly.

You have to have the drive to be the best. That's what he says. You have the drive, he has the expectation and the difference. Boom.

Boom. So I have the drive, not the expectation. He had no idea what he was doing. No.

One model author told Anthony Hating Guest of her experience with my friend lady. They wanted young, fresh faces. They told me they just threw a dart at the map and where it went. One model told author Anthony Hating Guest of her experiences with my friend lady.

They wanted young, fresh faces. They told me they just threw a dart at the map and when it landed, but he wasn't really doing anything for us. Yeah, I'm shocked. Like they just had a magazine full of ladies or like a assortment of photos on the wall.

They threw a dart and said, yeah, that's what we'll do. Ridiculous. So the fact that my friend lady, honestly managed to survive at all, was due almost entirely to Melanie Kane, who was still enough of a draw to keep the business afloat because people wanted her pictures. Hell yeah.

Now, while she did her best to keep the agency going, Buddy kind of abandoned the entire thing and just switched his attention back to property development seems to be what he's good at. That's what I mean. Honestly, oh, and he seems like he's already a property development. Yeah.

You know, I don't know. He seems fit for that. So in the mid 1970s, he purchased the park east, a former hospital near New York's Upper West Side and he planned to develop it into a $3 million co-op. I don't really know how that went because things go away.

So the relationship may have started as a business matter, but it didn't take long before Melanie and Buddy were involved romantically. I'm sure you saw that coming. But unfortunately, as he had already proven with his marriage, women were just another thing for Buddy to collect. And just like things had unfolded with his wife, the first few years of Melanie and Buddy's relationship were good, but after a while, he became very controlling and very overbearing.

Before long, Melanie was forbidden from having any male friends at all. And Buddy controlled or at the very least heavily influenced how she spent her time when she was away from him. Like he had control over him. That's bad.

That news bears. He had no interest in restraining his relationship with other women. And acquaintance said, it's tremendous the power he felt. He's sitting in Nicholas with four girls, nine girls, 13 girls.

And he's telling her you can't have male friends. A single male friend, but I can set it up table with 13 women. It's so hard. I feel so bad because obviously she was in a position where she just didn't see it.

And she's young and he's this older. Yeah. What is this partner? They're business partners and she's probably signed to some kind of contract.

It's easy to see in hindsight how red flaggy he is, but it's not easy when you're in it. Exactly. Now, so in just a few years of moving to New York to start her life, the things that had been so exciting for Melanie started to feel like a burden after a few years her relationship with Buddy was deteriorating rapidly. And despite her success, modeling just wasn't really filling her cup anymore.

But still, when she walked into the all Ireland bar in the late 1970s, Melanie wasn't planning to make any major life changes. And then she met Jack Tupper. Oh. So Melanie actually had met Jack a couple of times before the year before when an acquaintance of buddies had brought him to a party at Queens, but she didn't really get to know him like that well.

Okay. Now, Jack had grown up in New York and a few years earlier, he had moved into a building that buddy owned in Queens near the all Ireland, which Jack was managing at the time. Okay. As far as Melanie could tell, Jack was everything that Buddy was not.

He was in good shape. He dressed nicely. He was friendly. He was charming.

When he wasn't running the all Ireland, he volunteered at a sports program for underprivileged youth and Queens. Stop. Yep. He was he was a prize.

He sounds delightful. And Jack's dad later told reporters there was no notice, no disgrace on him. He was a wonderful boy. A good boy.

Oh, Jack. Jack forever. Oh, no. It's like a Titanic.

And Melanie and Jack's relationship, it started innocently enough. They made plans to go jogging together in the park. She just wanted a friend. But things changed pretty quickly after just a few days as jogging partners when Melanie admitted that she had a crush on Jack.

I mean, who wouldn't? He sounds delightful. He's adorable. He's a great guy.

He's a good catch. Yeah. So eventually dates to go jogging, starting to start to include dinner afterwards and just little reasons to stay and hang out longer than they needed to. Oh my God.

I just, I'm like, cut that other asshole loose. Snip. Enjoy this clip clip. What do we want to do?

Yeah. That was great as well. But Melanie, she still wasn't ready to enter a relationship with Buddy. A friend of her said, apparently she'd been contemplating breaking up with Buddy, but it was hard.

She'd been with him five years and they were in business together. That's hard. It is. It's easy to say from, you know, over here, like kind of below sunny.

And then I'm like, I stayed in a relationship far past its fucking expiration date. And imagine if you had been by the time I got out of there. I was sort of in rotten. It was so kind of silly and it was so moldy.

It was bad. But and then imagine being in business without person trying to leave them. I don't want to think of that. That's not good.

Yeah. No, it's hard. So instead Melanie and Jack carried on in secret, hoping that Buddy would never question why their jogging dates kept getting longer and longer and more frequent. But it's like, you want to be together guys.

You can't be together like this. Exactly. But he was so self absorbed that he didn't actually seem to notice when Melanie wasn't in that way. Yeah.

And so he didn't notice when she wasn't around as often as she typically had been. So soon these dates weren't just a few hours longer, but a few days longer. And within weeks of making plans to go jogging for the very first time, Jack took Melanie on a weekend trip to visit his sister and her husband, who was an FBI agent stationed in Puerto Rico. Days.

They just went to Puerto Rico for the weekend. Whoa, look at these two. I know. I love them.

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On August 6, 1978, the body of thirty-five-year-old bar owner Jack Tupper was found in a vacant lot in the Bronx, just across the street from the local firehouse. His face had been severely slashed, his head and body badly beaten, he had been shot...

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