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Hey weirdos, I'm Elena, my name's Ash, and this is really morbid. It sure fucking is. Welcome back to part 2. I'm really surprised you're here.
Part 2 of Jasmine Richardson and Jeremy Stankin. She's 12. She's 12. He's 23.
He thinks he's a 300-year-old werewolf. He likes blood. He does. He believes in it.
He writes poems. He does. Bad ones. Listen to part 1.
Yeah, do it. Yeah, if you're here for some reason, if you started here, go back to part 1. Turn back now. Turn back now.
Go to part 1 real quick because it's going to set you up. So I think we're just going to dive right into it. I'm about to dive in. You do that every time.
I love it. I just can't stop. I can't stop. I can't stop.
I can't stop. 12-year-old Jasmine. She's 12. After the brutal murders, the two were really gross.
They had sex. Hate it. They went to a rager. They were making out with each other in front of people.
And then they blatantly admitted to a guy named James Wally that they murdered her whole family. And Jasmine left off with the awful statement of, my little brother gargled. And she slit his throat. She's a cunt.
Yeah. So here we are. So at this point, police thought Jasmine was missing or kidnapped. Yeah.
Because her whole family's dead. Because they saw a family photo at the scene and clearly saw she was not there. So police went to her school to get more info about her. And her guidance counselor took out a very large file.
Sandra Richards, basically. Well, she offered to look in her locker for them because the police would need a warrant for that. But a guidance counselor legally can do that. Oh, I never knew that.
I didn't know that either. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. So Richard, Richards peeked inside the locker.
She began like flipping through a binder and a piece of paper fell out. What it was, was a hand-drawn 12-panel cartoon strip that was a bunch of stick figure people, three to be exact, being burned alive while two other stick figures watched, laughing. In it, one stick figure is running towards a vehicle labeled Jeremy's truck. In the first panel, it's labeled, let's go for a walk.
And the two adult stick figures are walking with a child while another larger child stands to one side with a frown on her face and Xs for lies. In another panel, an angry stick figure pours gasoline into a water sprinkler and it says muah ha ha. In the following panel, the little stick figure plays on a swing with a big smile on her face while the adults watch from a picnic table. And they say, quote, oh no, we're covered in gasoline.
And then the next panel reads, ah, I'm being burned alive. Help, help. My flesh is being burned off. And it shows the family being burned alive.
Jesus Christ. In another with a caption reading, quote, the unimaginable pain. And in the last panel, two stick figures are seen laughing and saying, quote, aha, you're burning alive. What the fuck?
So, I mean, if I saw this, I'd be like, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I think she wanted to kill her whole family. I'm getting a vibe. She's ill. I'm getting a vibe.
She was 12. Yeah, yeah, she was 12. Everyone, I said in the first part, but if you're new here, remember she's 12 because it's really easy to forget. So the guidance council also found a note that said, quote, may the hatred and anger built of blazing infernos fill you and overcome you.
May the pains of a thousand tortured souls come upon you like scalding blade and eclipse all their noble feeling. May your hopes, dreams, and happiness fall into the swirling pit of despair never to return. May your peace of mind and safety be gone to you to be forever afraid and allied. May the black overcome you and the pain never ending.
May all you love be stolen and destroyed just out of reach to never again feel such joys. Amen. I have never been that angry at someone. No.
Never. And then you ended. Amen. Amen.
Look, thank you for coming for my sermon. That will be all. Like, wow. Shit.
So when they saw that, they were like, yeah, that's something. They were like, she didn't run away. You know what? I'm beginning to think she wasn't getting it.
That's what I meant to say. She didn't run away. That this was probably something to do with her. Oh, wow.
So blood evidence was a big part of this case. Which is kind of funny because it's like, Jeremy was so obsessed with blood. Yeah, exactly. He really believed in it.
So I'm a big proponent of blood. Yeah, he's a big believer. So the investigation brought in a blood stain expert, Sergeant Serge LaRocque. Yes.
And he really like went to town on this because there was a lot to work. Anyone named Serge always goes to town. Yeah, Serge is just, he's ready for it. He is.
So outside of Jacob's bedroom, he identified, quote, 100 plus projected stains on the carpet. In the bedroom, he found 75 plus projected stains on the floor. And he found transfer stains at the foot of the bed. He said all of this was consistent with, quote, a bloodletting event from a source moving around the room.
Which means this kid was running around the room while also bleeding frantically. I hate that. He concluded that Jacob was attacked in the hallway outside his room. And then Jacob moved back into the bedroom where he said, quote, after a fair amount of activity, he died on his bed.
Deborah, he said, did not really move from where she was found. So she probably died a little quicker. Yeah. And this is really sad, this part.
So just like brace yourself. This whole thing is really sad. One of the sergeants that was on the scene said, quote, I'm an ex-military guy. I'd seen some bad stuff before.
It was the worst crime scene I'd ever been in. Wow. And he said, you could tell the dad was a warrior. Dad fought to his last breath right to the end.
You could calculate how long the death fight took by looking at the scene. And he also said, quote, the most touching thing was the lightsaber in Jacob's room. I suspected he grabbed it and tried to use it with the blood all over it. Oh, my God.
Yeah. So they said, like, he may have picked that up to try to defend himself. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's pretty awful.
Oh, that is, that, like, hit me with a light. I don't like the visual of that. They found a tiny little blood smear on the light switch in Jasmine's room. This indicated to them that it was not an intruder, but someone who knew the house.
Because he said, usually intruders don't turn on and off lights. Right. They also knew it was the work of at least two people, since the father had fought so hard. They were like one person.
Could not have done a cellar. All of it, like, all of it together. At 12 years and six months of age, Jasmine was the youngest person that could ever be charged with homicide in Canada. Wow.
So at this point, she was now a murder suspect. After they found that, like, after they found that really great cartoon she wrote and all the other stuff, and also the blood on the light switch. So now her picture was sent out everywhere. Oh, wow.
James Wally saw this. James Wally is the one that they confessed to. He decided to go to the police. Finally, somebody does.
So he was not the only one, though. Jordan, who he had initially asked to help him, Jordan was like, no. He showed up at the station, too. And he said Jeremy asked him to help with the murders.
He admitted all that. Wow. And James was the one who said that he admitted that he, quote, gutted them like a fish, and that he said Jasmine said her little brother gargled as he was dying. Oh, my God, I hate that so much.
Around 7 p.m. that night, the murders were being broadcasted and shit, so Jeremy and Jasmine were starting to get nervous. Their friend Kaylee, who was the teen runaway, and the one that introduced them, was making plans with, this is kind of confusing, but it's just like to set up the scene. She was making plans with another friend, Casey, who was at the party with them, and a dude named Mick to go to a town called Leader, where Mick lived, and the runaway Kaylee was hoping to stay at his house.
So Casey asked Jeremy and Jasmine if they wanted to take a ride with them. She said she thought they wanted to run away together, so she was like, why don't you just come with us? And she didn't know that they had a couple of family. So they laid down in the back of the pickup truck that they were taking, and so it was Kaylee, Casey, Coke dealer's girlfriend, Jenny, and Mick in the front of this car, and Jasmine and Jeremy were in the back of the truck.
Okay. Is Mick the Coke dealer? No. Oh, okay.
They had seen a bulletin put out Sunday evening, April 23rd, by the Medicine Hat Police that said be on the lookout for suspects, wanted in a triple homicide, and they said they could be going that way. Right. They did this because friends of Jeremy and Jasmine had told the police that that was likely where they were going to go. So the friends started trickling in, for what people know.
Now, this rookie cop drove around town in his car, and he was just on the lookout. Around 2 a.m., after he was looking around, he didn't see anything, he headed home. But then he woke up early at like 5.30 a.m., and he was like, oh shit, they probably are going to need gas. Smart rookie.
Right? So he went to the biggest gas station in town. Okay. He knew what they all looked like and what the car looked like, so he just parked at the corner that gave him like a view of the gas station, and just like hung out there.
Well, a small pickup truck with Alberta plates matching the description of the vehicle happened to pull up to one of the pumps at 7 a.m. I was like, he waited for a while. Yeah, he did. And three teenage girls spilled out of the front, and they went inside the gas station.
These girls were Casey Cayley and Coke dealer's girlfriend, Jenny. Okay. The girl said later that when they went into the gas station, they noticed a newspaper with the news of Jasmine's family's murders flashed across the front. Oh no.
And there was a big picture of Jasmine right on the front. Oh shit. So was this the day after the murders? Yeah.
Wow. Well, no, this was actually two days afterwards, because this was the morning after the party that they went to, the day after the murders. Got it. The girls were thinking, so when they saw that, they were like, oh my God, did someone break into her house and do this?
So they bought this, so I love this. They're like, oh, her whole family got massacred? Let's just grab some food and some drinks real quick, and then we'll go out. I can't.
So they bought some food and drinks, and they bought the newspaper, and when they went back out, they showed the paper to Jeremy and Jasmine. Oh my God. So Jasmine giggled when she saw it, and Jeremy was laughing and said, quote, that doesn't even look like you. It's literally a photo of her.
Oh my God. So Casey was like, quote, if it were my family, I would have totally freaked out, but there was no reaction whatsoever. So one of the girls was like, oh, I see what's happening now. And then she was like, then she said, holy shit, we gotta get you out of here.
She's like, yeah, get out of here. What the hell's going on? So according to Casey, Jasmine was like, listen, she said, quote, she told us to tell the cops that Jeremy had picked her up at 11 p.m. the night before to stay at Coke dealer's, and that Jeremy and Coke dealer got into a fight because they were drinking, and that was supposed to give an alibi and also account for Jeremy's black eye, which he got from her.
Yeah. Now these kids pulled into a high school parking lot and were trying to figure out what to do next. And at this time, the girls were like, yeah, they definitely did this. Like, they were like, fuck, but they didn't know what to do.
So they decided to take a nap. With two murderers. That's what you would do, right? No.
Meanwhile, the rookie cop was following them from a distance. I never knew all of this. Yeah. And he called in backup from another cop, Officer Gallant, I think his name was.
When he showed up, the two of them made a plan to ambush the truck. This is great. When they did, they discovered their suspects under the blanket were Jeremy and Jasmine, minus her pants. Oh God.
That's fucking 12. So at 7.51 a.m., they ordered Jeremy and Jasmine out of the truck. Jasmine was handcuffed and put in the back of the police vehicle with the three other girls, and Jeremy was put in the back of another car. As he was put in the car, he yelled, quote, tell my mom she can have my TV and that I love her.
Priorities. Priorities. She can have my TV. First, take my TV.
Yeah, she can totally have my TV. Now, as they were being driven to the station, Casey, Jenny, Kaylee, and Jasmine were starting to worry, not that they were going to be charged with murder and accessory after the fact, but that Jeremy might be charged with rape. That's what they were worried about. Okay.
According to Casey, quote, Jasmine had her pants off and the cops wouldn't let her put them back on. So one of the girls told Jasmine that she should just claim the cops raped her. Oh, that's really awful. They joked that they might have to be, like, searched.
Hot Cop, because I still like Jeremy. Like, this is the conversation they're having, going to the station. I don't have a response for that. My brain just melted.
And they put, so they got back to the station, they put Jasmine in a holding cell, Jeremy was still in the back of the other cop car, and the police were taking the other three girls into the station office. When they went back into the car to get them, Jenny had ticked in the plexiglass divider in the police car's front seat, and they were all yelling, fuck off and fuck you at the police officers. Like, that's going to help you. When they got into the station, while the officers were dealing with Jasmine and Jeremy, the girls started making unauthorized phone calls.
They were all being video recorded, by the way, because it's a police station. And Kaylee stole notepads and pens out of a drawer and shoved them down her pants and up her shirt. Like, why? So these are the kind of kids that we're dealing with.
And you know what Jenny says? Quote, we were all pretty scared. Yeah, it sounds like you appreciate it. Sounds like you appreciate it.
And she said, quote, I was scared. I was not a very nice person at all. I was provoking the police, laughing at them, calling them names. I was mad.
I was in a police station, and they were saying I was arrested for murder. So that's how you act. Like, that makes sense. While this is all going on, the autopsies of Deborah, Mark, and Jacob are underway.
Oh, it makes me really sad that they're dead. I know. Forensic pathologist Dr. Craig Litwin was performing the autopsies.
They each took two hours. Mark's from 9.30 a.m. to 11.30 a.m. Deborah's from 2 p.m.
to 4 p.m. And Jacob's was the next day. The first thing they look for at autopsy is usually lividity. This was discussed in my solo Morbid episode, so go listen to that.
But basically, it is when the blood falls to the lowest point of gravity and turns purplish. When a body is laying in a spot for a long period of time. Lividity was actually not evident at all during their autopsies. And there's one reason for this.
Most of the blood had already flowed out of their bodies before they were even brought in. Holy shit. That much blood? Yeah.
In Jacob's case, he was 4 foot 4 inches, 68 pounds. And most of his blood loss came from a large wound to his throat that severed his thyroid glands, jugular vein, and larynx. They said basically, so the carotid arteries are the ones that spurt when you see like movies and stuff like that. The jugular doesn't.
The jugular is like a slow flow. So this work hit it slowly. Oh no. He also had four other stab wounds, two to the right side of his face.
Oh my god. Each slightly more than 2.5 centimeters deep. And two other stab wounds to the left side of his chest. And it was Jasmine that stabbed him, right?
That's what everybody is thinking because Jeremy admitted everything else, but he will not admit to that. In the way that she, when she's like laughing, being like, he gargled. That's really horrible. Jacob also had petechial hemorrhages on the inside of his eyelids and mouth.
What does that mean? Which is indicative of strangulation. It's basically blood vessels that break when you get strangled. Like you'll see petechial hemorrhaging and like a lot of choking deaths.
So that's, which is consistent with her trying to strangle him first. Of course, the pathologist couldn't say definitively that Jacob had been choked because the wound to his neck was so large that it literally like, you couldn't find any evidence. Mark, the father, was 5 foot 10 inches. He weighed 207 pounds.
The pathologist found 24 stab wounds on him. him wow yeah he had one to his right abdomen which was 11 centimeters deep holy shit he had one to his right lower back that entered his lung his right lung and caused 600 milliliters of blood to enter his chest cavity deborah was five foot three inches and weighed 143 pounds she had 12 stab wounds the most significant one uh punctured her aorta she had ones that punctured her lungs as well and one that penetrated her stomach oh god mark and deborah had a lot of defensive knife cuts on their hands and arms and they both would have had what he said was quote several moments of purposeful activity after suffering their most severe wounds so none of them went quick they all had several moments of trying to do something i really didn't need to know that mark was stabbed 24 times but they said no one wound caused death they said it was literally massive blood loss that's really awful yeah deborah's uh fatal wound though was the one to her aorta which would have once the aorta is hit that will be quick what is that again that's the biggest uh vessel in your body okay now is interrogation time for jasmine and jeremy 10 30 a.m on tuesday april 25th was when jasmine was interrogated here's the problem interrogating underage children is very tough canada's youth criminal justice act does help with this because it provides rights and protections specifically for children right under a child exactly police have to read a special youth waiver and caution form which is known as form 9.1 and they have to have these underage suspects sign it every time that they talk to them okay it basically is say it's basically because a young person is usually going to be more influenced by authority figures right they won't they probably won't understand their legal rights as much as an adult's will yeah teenagers are also way more susceptible to subtle threats and somebody who's younger may be more inclined to make a statement even if it's not true just to please the person in authority right so they don't want any of that happening because that ruins cases right form 9.9.1 has 15 steps that police have to follow reading this person their rights every time they talk to them and police will skip to like different sections of the form depending on what answer the suspect gives them okay and that reminds me of mcas yeah in each section they have to end it with like do you understand yeah so these two police officers that were going to interrogate jasmine decided that the best tactic to use on her was a combo of father figure and cool guy okay so the first cop cool guy cool guy the first cop officer cole tried the fatherly thing because he had like gray hair and like a mustache yeah like i just i'm not the cool guy right um but jasmine just like cried the whole time like he said it wasn't like an emotional cry it was like i'm trying to trick you cry um so shortly after 11 30 a.m officer cole and the second officer sheehan decided that sheehan was going to go in and be the cool guy uh sheehan apparently was a handsome 35 year old with dark hair blue eyes he had like a pair of cool glasses cool guy glasses so when he went in there he introduced himself as chris and immediately just started like lightheartedly teasing her and like acting like a cool friend instead of a cop oh man i was like oh what's in here for well she was like drawing like writing or something like that and he or and he like pointed and said like oh you write s is weird like acting like her peer kind of thing yeah and she immediately fell for it because she's well and she said quote i like you you smell good that's wow which is how fast we turn very fast uh she told us but do you have a llama do you have a llama though because this could be trouble do you have a viable blood to give me because this won't work so she told a bunch of different stories about the night of the murders that all took her completely out of the guilty situation but with a lot of pressing she finally broke she said she originally was trying to strangle jake jacob so that he would pass out and not feel pain that's why she said she was yeah she said quote i went in his bedroom i was trying to calm him down jeremy came upstairs and he began to say we need to kill him you can't just leave him i had a knife and like i was really having a hard time he was really like pressuring me i stabbed him in the chest i slipped or something and i couldn't do it and i was trying to wash it off me and the cop said and jeremy did jacob because you couldn't and she nodded okay so he the cop said you stabbed him once in the side of the chest and got blood on you and she said yes he was still moving around and he said he was crying and she said she said he was saying i'm too young to die he said that a whole bunch of times oh god and then the cop said where did the knife come from and she said one from the kitchen was in my bedroom from before i took it into my brother's bedroom i didn't know what i was going to do but i didn't want my brother to suffer i knew he couldn't go through life without his parents he's already so scared about other stuff and jeremy she said quote did it out of love for me well you great little thing so the cop then said why don't you write a letter to your parents apologizing and that will be your sentence this is a tactic because it's you can put it in evidence right so she's like why don't you go ahead and write why don't you admit it so what she wrote oh god is quote dear my loverly parental units wow she's an asshole i am writing in response to the events of sunday morning a terrible thing happened something i feel was all my fault you must know i love you all dearly and are in my prayers i wish peace upon your souls in the summerland that's a wicked thing by the way to my little brother i apologize for letting you hear what happened also for causing you any pain and for frightening you so much to my parents i hope you know that though all this has happened i loved you the whole time i wish i could take everything back i wish it hadn't happened i wish you were with me right now because now i have no one i pray you can forgive me and jeremy too because he was under the influence of mind-altering substances and did it out of love for me he is most possibly the kindest person i've ever met what his wish being for my happiness through all the fights and hatred hatred exchanged i still love you i'm sorry my sarcasm was taken to heart i never meant to harm you i pray you can be at peace somehow he has a lot of inner work to do now then in an unprecedented move the cop convinced jasmine that he would give notes to jeremy from her if they wanted to communicate that way wow this guy's a genius yeah and according to the chief this whole thing it was like around like no one's ever done it he said quote in my experience in canadian policing i think this is the first time it was used involving murders most people clam down once a murder charges on them right not them no well because they're so dumb yeah so wednesday april 26th at 8 40 a.m was when jeremy was interrogated right he admitted that he did to her parents because he said he freaked out and was high on drugs he also said he tried to convince jasmine not to do it before it all happens but he said he would do anything for right so without prodding jeremy then was like oh and jasmine did jacob like they didn't ask him he was he just was like by the way i didn't do jacob okay so he said quote i went upstairs i watched her cut her own brother's throat and they said why did she do that and he said because she knew it had to be done i didn't touch him i was pacing then she came over and gave me a hug i had to go for fresh air i couldn't take it anymore after i got out of the shower she showed up in a cab i said we have to get out of here we have to leave so then they were like well jasmine says you killed jacob yeah so and he said quote she cut his throat she cut his throat he like shouted and then he said i swear to god she cut his throat i didn't want to kill anyone and he began hitting the concrete block wall of the room that he was in and then he said he was really shocked at her reaction to the murders and he said quote she wasn't crying she didn't look very upset oh he's like i'm actually really scared of her yeah he's like she's actually terrifying so the cops gave him a pad of paper and they were like you want to answer jasmine's note and he was like yes i'm not with her so so their notes back and forth were ridiculous of course one of jasmine said this dear my lover lee basante no idea is it like a croissant it's exactly what i put it so silly right now please don't be sorry i'm the i'm the one who needs to be begging your forgiveness if only we ran yes but don't obsess on what could have been in due time we shall have our castle i am not i am not whole without you i love you with everything i am i'll never stop and my promises shall be kept however desolate it seems and shall become take it one day at a time it can only get so bad before it gets better i will be with you in spirit i hope you're doing all right however large a task please don't stress out too much having your sanity might be helpful more than anything i wish to be with you and hold you again but until that time comes no i love you xoxox enjoy and sorrow my sweet 666 jazz as you wind down this evening let number seven prime forever serum be your secret to aging at the speed of glacier helping to pause the visible signs of skin aging number seven prime forever serum works to dramatically reduce skin aging activity while you sleep find the number seven prime forever range at selected booth stores and boots.ie subject to availability consumer testing dramatically reduces skin aging activity from antioxidant protection against surface oxidative stress yo she's not 12 she's a demon from hell 100 so then jeremy was like yeah i'll go back to that and he was like that's great rolling on the floor laughing xo pretty much he started it dear cuddle bunny what did he yeah he did cuddle bunny wow i'm sure that you are right what's done is done you need not ask for my forgiveness indeed in due time our empire shall be complete what for you i was half and now that i'm whole i can't go back to being half you're the one that i breathe you're my moon when it breaks through the clouds at night you're all that i need i long to feel your soft skin i yearn for your kisses for they could get me high i hope that you stay true to your words my entire faith has been bestowed upon you with your words i shall remain strong sometimes i have trouble sleeping at night but i'm sure the thought of you before we get through the nights don't even know what that means in due time we shall be together once again but until that day arrives stay strong keep hope and have faith i love you with all my heart and soul never forget that okay my love till we speak again xoxoxox jeremy you are the moon that breaks through the clouds that's funny um in one of the letters after that jeremy proposed marriage but she's 12 so jasmine agreed i don't know if that's gonna work out for them i don't think you know love birds jasmine agreed so they were engaged now cool so that's nice awesome meanwhile i don't know where to go with my life right now jeremy started like they're able to make up some phone calls in prison um so he decided to use those phone calls to call a 14 year old girl named morgan uh-oh that he knew from the mall i'm sorry that he knew from hot topics literally because morgan was literally obsessed with him oh no and would hold a vigil outside of the jail for him shut the fuck up like on kelly people yeah she wasn't the only one a shit ton of underage like 12 13 14 year old girls were obsessed with him he's the white r kelly he had like they like weird devotion to him they were all sit outside the courthouse and sob and hug each other it was like bundy's followers but like goth what yeah in fact he was ugly i just have to say that okay i'm saying he's ugly in every way you can be ugly in fact on he's a murderer well there's not only are you that's what i mean he's ugly anyway you're a murderer but you're also ugly yeah in fact on the social media sites that they were all active on like the vampire freaks and all that friends were writing that they would mosh for jeremy every day what yeah so they were like what jeremy will mosh for you like oh my god that's great what the fuck where did all your brain cells collectively go shit do you want to hear a side note story of fanfare sure one time i got this was actually pretty recent people were moshing at a concert that i was at which it was not moshable musical if you look at who i am as a human being and this girl had butted me in the chest so hard and i was instagram storying it and all of a sudden at the end you just hear me go literally it was really painful and i got a bruise that's an amazing story i wonder if she was moshing for jeremy i really questioned out if she was she was moshing she was moshing so hard because she was doing it for jeremy it all makes sense wow well i feel like i was gonna get the hiccups for a second you're part of this now how does it feel i always was i never was oh that's so funny oh that's funny watching for jeremy she was well jeremy's like uh like super dumb and he besides that hasn't been heavily established yeah like besides the huge digital footprint besides the huge digital footprint that they both left everywhere uh jeremy was heard speaking to another inmate by prison guards saying yeah she did the eight-year-old and i did her parents oh it was all her idea but when someone you love asks you to do something you do it no you don't and then he said quote i'll tell you straight up man her dad came at me with a screwdriver and stabbed me in the eye the eight-year-old will be with me the rest of my life she's fucked up in the head and one of them dead anyway well yeah he let out an even more incriminating uh statement when he was being transferred to another facility the cops dressed one of their officers up like a prisoner and just put him in a prison van with jeremy and wired the whole van that must have been so fun right he didn't even actually at the end of this the guy who was pretending to be the prisoner said that he was like nauseous and sick to his stomach i mean as a normal human being i just don't understand he didn't even have to pull it out of either he just gave it all up he admitted he was he was like hey have you heard about that triple homicide and the guy was like he's like yeah and he's like you're looking at him oh my god let me go fuck yourself and he bragged about it he said he was he said his girlfriend's father fought like hell he thought he bested him and then he said quote the last thing i remember was him laying on the ground asking me why and i said because you treat your daughter like shit she wanted it this way and fucking and that was it and then i went upstairs and i watched my girlfriend cut her brother's throat it didn't bother her at all either she didn't cry or anything in fact the next day when we were on the fucking road she was laughing about it and he also said this hilarious thing for this cop he was like me and jasmine me and my girlfriend we uh when we if we get out of here we were planning on going to germany and buying a castle and this cop had to hold his shit together i would have hysterically laughed all the way to the next facility this cop is the best actor of our time but he held his shit because i would look like this currently this is what i would look like i'd be like really stinky you think that you're gonna get out of here go to germany and buy a fucking castle with what money with what brain cells and with what dumb luck are you getting out of this one you're a 23 year old high school dropout and you're gonna go to just drugs all day every day and you're gonna go to germany and buy a castle like i 12 year old girlfriend i doubt his abilities to make a sandcastle i doubt that as well and you think you're gonna buy you're gonna buy an actual castle oh god this fucker this fucker i can't well it was over a year before it went to trial for jasmine uh it was separate from jeremy's trial because of her age uh on june 4th 2007 in medicine hats court a queen's bench courthouse in alberta so they were in a castle they were uh well canada has like i love that they're like the crown stuff like you know really cool they have that cool stuff that's like royal good job canada you better cool hey uh the indictment had 90 witnesses and included jeremy 90 witnesses yeah wow who could and jeremy could be called to testify against her oh she sobbed but they said it wasn't like a sad sob it was like a theatrical sob of course did they dress her in something like so yeah like a lavender shirt and like but yeah she sobbed as they read out her three family members names and the charges of first-degree murder for each of them she entered a not guilty plea how is she saying he did her identity was supposed to be protected because of age but it was let out and leaked anyways of course they used the defense that she was a child who was under the control of a predator i.e jeremy unfortunately the justice claimed that the officers didn't properly allow jasmine rights to a lawyer when they got the confession so it was largely inadmissible which was pretty devastating uh it took 45 minutes for the forensic pathologist on the stand to describe just mark's wounds whoa yeah all the witnesses that were friends of jasmine said the truth that they said she told her that many times that she wanted her parents dead jeremy's friends all testified and they said we saw them making out of the party right after the murders asking they were like they asked us for help with the murders and the most damning was again that statement that jasmine made to james wally that her brother gargled as he died on tuesday july 4th 2007 jasmine testified in her trial she basically said everything she said about wanting to kill her family wanting her family dead were just jokes funny and she was like i don't know why people took it seriously that's crazy and when they were she was asked like hey so how come you guys had sex like right after you killed the whole family like if he killed your whole family you weren't psyched about it why did you sleep with him right and she said well she was scared and he wanted to make her feel better and they're like yeah that doesn't answer the question like what the prosecutor was really amazing at like just poking holes in her story i love that and uh she said i'm just gonna read you a couple little things from her testimony because it's funny so she said you go to the 7-eleven after the murders and she said yeah they have a clerk there right yeah it's all lit up yeah you don't ask that person for help no you don't say there's people at your house you might need help no and then she said when jeremy left you stranded at the house why didn't you check on your wounded family to make sure that they couldn't be helped and she said you don't see anything you don't do anything to try and help them and jasmine said how could i help them and she said you didn't even check on them did you and she said no at this point you don't even know if they're dead for sure and jasmine said i was thinking if they were dead for sure i was practically sleepwalking and then the prosecutor said you don't call an ambulance for them no you don't call 9-1-1 my parents have been attacked no you don't call any of your friends no you don't call any of your friends parents no you don't call anyone any you don't call anybody belonging to your parents no you don't run next door no you don't just sit down and cry no and then she said so you heard so she goes so you heard your father being killed downstairs and she said yes and she goes so you don't call 9-1-1 right no you don't tell jacob call 9-1-1 no you see your mother lying at the bottom of the stairs with blood on her chest yeah you don't rush up to her and try to help her no you see your father and jeremy fighting yeah and you don't say stop it no i was scared i was so scared i was terrified i was panicking and i couldn't think and i was so scared i didn't know what to do it didn't even occur to me to call 911 well that's stupid and so the prosecutor said no what occurred to you was to try to make jacob go to sleep and she said yes and she goes you didn't even say lie down in your bed honey go to sleep instead you put your arm around his neck and she said yeah and she said and tried to choke him yeah pardon me she said and she made her say yes out loud oh and she goes and you thought that somehow this was going to result in him going to sleep and she said yes and she said so you had the one arm around his neck yes and he was clawing at it yes because he weighed what 68 pounds i don't know what he weighed putting him to sleep wasn't working out so well was it no so they literally just kept they were like hammering her you're sitting here telling me you were scared you had no idea this was gonna happen you had nothing to do with this but let me just ask you about 400 questions of things you could have done to stop this and why didn't you go so scared why were you joking your brother exactly and i love that she's like so you didn't think to be like calm down honey lie down go to sleep to try to make him like calm down so you were like first thought i think i'll choke him i think i'll choke him out that makes sense so that didn't go well for her she was pretty quickly compared to carla homoka oh wow um like a mini carla homoka and the comparison makes sense uh they both were described as having those like empty dead eyes that both of them do have and they both have emotionless responses to their family member's murder yeah and they both willingly gave over a younger sibling for their lover to murder that's true so it only took four hours for jury deliberation i'm surprised it even took that long that's crazy and they came back with a verdict of guilty of first degree murder on all three accounts yes thank you she was sentenced on november 8th 2007 the judge said quote the circumstances surrounding these murders are horrific it is difficult to imagine or conceive of a more horrific crime than this the planned and deliberate murder of her parents and only sibling by a 12 and a half year old young person because because of her age they were restricted on what they could sentence her right which fucking sucks yeah and it's restricted by the youth criminal justice act um he would only be able to put the max sentence of six years oh my god followed by another four years conditional supervision in the community which is probation right but he didn't want her to just serve jail time he wanted her to be rehabilitated so instead he used a specialized sentence referred to as intensive rehabilitative custody and supervision ircs um it's basically a rehab program for really violent young offenders who are diagnosed as suffering from mental illnesses so was she diagnosed with mental illness she was but we won't know what because um her psych evals won't ever be made public because she was so young i want to know um the application was granted so she was the youngest person in canada to ever receive this sentence they took into account the 18 months she was already in jail gave her four years in custody to be followed by four and a half years of community supervision probation which is technically the max 10 years for her age wow the judge said jasmine you can never undo what you've done to your mom dad and little brother however what you can do is honor their memory by dedicating your life to becoming the woman your parents and brother would be proud of she served her time at alberta hospital which is a psych facility she was released in 2012 and as of 2017 her record was espunged that is so messed up it's like it never happened that's so oh and her identity was changed for her protection i know what is awful is that she can get any job she wants she can be a daycare worker a kindergarten teacher and she slipped the throat of her eight-year-old little brother and she never has to disclose these crimes to anybody well i'm sorry but there's some crimes where you're just a fucking demon no it's the thought that jason that jason that jasmine is walking around right now living her life like what is she doing yeah and we'll never know because she's got a new identity do you think she's still on the vampire site no i don't know i think that was the jeremy thing rebellion and the jeremy thing now she has nothing to rebel against wolf well jeremy's trial was on november 14th 2008 in the calgary court center the taped conversation in the transfer van where jeremy sang like a canary was admissible and used as evidence against him his mom showed up to every court appearance wearing his letterman jacket that he dropped out of high school for yeah apparently he played like one semester yeah like why didn't you just wear his train coat instead no she wanted to be like this is my boy's letterman jacket jeremy took the stand in his own defense on december 2nd and he admitted to the killings of deborah mark but said he freaked out and did it because he was just like bonkers off his like rocker he said he was there to get jasmine and leave but never intended to hurt anybody not true he also claimed he never intended to kill the parents but oops it was just self-defense and oh man it was just a weird coincidence that jasmine also murdered her brother on the same exact night weird just happened that way and they literally asked him that they're like so you're literally telling us that you whoops had to kill her parents and then oh my goodness what a coincidence she murdered her brother on the same night and he was like yes and then he said i would like to answer you and call him i would like to howl at you t-e-t-e-t-e-r-o-f-l-x-t cuddle bun so the jury deliberated for one day and convicted jeremy of first-degree murder on all three accounts oh wow he was sentenced on december 15th 2008 he was sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole for 25 years did he get anything for uh you know like dating an underage girl uh they were actually going to go for that but then they thought this was more important so they're not even gonna oh wow because it wouldn't really matter yeah it's not gonna um so the judge said quote i'm about to send you away to jail for a very long time perhaps the rest of your life and it's because of the horrific and unspeakable violence you've committed the richardson home where the murders occurred was put back on the market oh god it was renovated and put back on they're called like death homes they're like a real like it happens yeah people have to resell the home and i mean i guess it was i think it was bought at this point literally no thank you well it was broken into twice after the investigation was completed oh really like just people going in like someone had a seance in it too once because police found votive candles on a cookie sheet in jacob's bedroom oh and like what kind of no thank you and i just want to end this by saying a couple things about what people said about mark deborah and jacob yeah i like that about mark they said quote he always made time for his family be playing with his children taking them swimming and camping as well as daily parenting mark was successful in every aspect of his life many you could look at and many could look at as a shining example of how to live mark somebody else said mark was quiet prudent and reserved and mostly sought comfort in the sidelines perfectly content to let deborah bask in the spotlight he would sit back and watch her go about with a certain gleam in his eye a smile of gratitude and appreciation for his deborah oh god that would really hurt they also said mark absolutely adored deborah as she did him he trusted deborah explicitly and granted her trust to bring out the best in him he possessed a whole lot of integrity he was an honest man sincere tolerant humble generous kind and soft with his words believed in harmony and the most important thing was his family he also excelled in his career and took much pride in doing his job well about jacob his eulogy said jacob was viewed was a beautiful young soul full of energy and with a heart of gold he was a polite eight-year-old who had learned from his parents to give the biggest warmest hugs they also said jacob had learned many spiritual principles from his parents he showed great character in his admiration for his favorite hockey player tiger williams he had such a boyish innocence in his cheering for two different hockey teams jacob was full of zest a boy's boy always active whether it be playing baseball and catch with his friends skateboarding or simply being a jedi knight oh wow so that concludes the murders perpetrated by jasmine richardson and jeremy stanky everyone take a deep breath oh collect a deep breath yeah that's an intense one so uh we hope you stick around yep because uh jeremy's in jail forever so that's good i'm so pissed that jasmine is not i hope she goes to jail again i hope she does too i hope she stops her toe every single day i hope she always has to go to the dmv i hope she always has steak stuck in her tooth always every like can never get she has really tight teeth but she can't use regular floss yeah yeah what else um oh i hope she gets stung by a bee yep i hope that she consistently gets subpar coffee in the morning i hope she always has gas pains always and acne and acne yes and consistently needs root milk yes yep she's always got some kind of fucking abscess and i hope she has a gluten allergy oh yeah she doesn't deserve i hope she has celiac disease yeah for sure and i hope she's very lactose intolerant which contributes to the constant gas yes because i hope she has massive cravings for cheese at all times she can't eat it and i hope she's allergic to peanut butter yeah oh yeah that's a rough one and i hope she i hope her highlights are always stripy and that's it because she always has kelly clark's in her oh that's a good one all right thank you and good night in the meantime you can follow us on instagram at morbid podcast follow us on twitter a morbid podcast send us a gmail morbidpodcast at gmail.com join the facebook group morbid colon a true crime podcast donate to the patreon if you're feeling so inclined please patreon.com slash morbidpodcast check out our fucking website morbidpodcast.com we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird i'm not doing one for this one this is too much too much as you wind down 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