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EPISODE · Dec 2, 2025 · 51 MIN

Joel Grus

from Data Day with Greg Michaelson · host Greg Michaelson

Notebooks were made for people, not for AI. Zerve rebuilt them for both. In this livestream, Greg Michaelson, Zerve Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer, chats with data science guru Joel Grus (of “I don’t like notebooks” fame), and unveils the latest Zerve release: a new kind of notebook where agents and humans collaborate in real time to go from question to deployed solution 10x faster. Learn how Zerve carries ideas from exploration to live apps and APIs — no rewrites, no orchestration tools, no context switching.

Notebooks were made for people, not for AI. Zerve rebuilt them for both. In this livestream, Greg Michaelson, Zerve Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer, chats with data science guru Joel Grus (of “I don’t like notebooks” fame), and unveils the latest Zerve release: a new kind of notebook where agents and humans collaborate in real time to go from question to deployed solution 10x faster. Learn how Zerve carries ideas from exploration to live apps and APIs — no rewrites, no orchestration tools, no context switching.

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Notebooks were made for people, not for AI. Zerve rebuilt them for both. In this livestream, Greg Michaelson, Zerve Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer, chats with data science guru Joel Grus (of “I don’t like notebooks” fame), and unveils the...

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