EPISODE · Mar 26, 2025 · 1H 12M
Journey to Building an Inclusive Future with Mary Jo Schnell
from Radical Sacred · host Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke
Humbled by this lovely conversation with the Executive Director of OutCenter, Mary Jo Schnell. Mary Jo talks to us about leading with empathy and listening deeply to all people, even those we fundamentally disagree with. We can’t connect with others in meaningful ways if we don’t “stay at the table.” Mary Jo walks us through a vision of building an inclusive future rooted in community, equality for all, and intersectionality. May we each be the vision bearers and light bringers for such a beautiful future. Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): OutCenterOn Tyranny by Timothy SnyderHow to Stand Up to a Dictator - Maria RessaMy Gender is the Undoing of Gender by Andrea GibsonGood Grief by Andrea GibsonChapters00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery02:41 The Role of the Out Center05:12 Mary Jo's Background and Nonprofit Experience10:25 Building Community and Support for LGBTQ Youth16:15 The Importance of Education and Advocacy21:24 Navigating Systemic Challenges26:17 Guides and Influences on the Journey36:30 The Unmasking of the Movement38:29 Community Resilience and Local Action43:42 Empathy as a Tool for Connection48:53 Navigating Tyranny and Advocacy58:54 The Importance of Staying at the Table
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Humbled by this lovely conversation with the Executive Director of OutCenter, Mary Jo Schnell. Mary Jo talks to us about leading with empathy and listening deeply to all people, even those we fundamentally disagree with. We can’t connect with others in meaningful ways if we don’t “stay at the table.” Mary Jo walks us through a vision of building an inclusive future rooted in community, equality for all, and intersectionality. May we each be the vision bearers and light bringers for such a beautiful future. Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): OutCenterOn Tyranny by Timothy SnyderHow to Stand Up to a Dictator - Maria RessaMy Gender is the Undoing of Gender by Andrea GibsonGood Grief by Andrea GibsonChapters00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery02:41 The Role of the Out Center05:12 Mary Jo's Background and Nonprofit Experience10:25 Building Community and Support for LGBTQ Youth16:15 The Importance of Education and Advocacy21:24 Navigating Systemic Challenges26:17 Guides and Influences on the Journey36:30 The Unmasking of the Movement38:29 Community Resilience and Local Action43:42 Empathy as a Tool for Connection48:53 Navigating Tyranny and Advocacy58:54 The Importance of Staying at the Table
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