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EPISODE · Apr 19, 2026 · 43 MIN

Joy Anyway, with Jan Hoath

from Mindfulness Exercises, with Sean Fargo · host Sean Fargo

Joy is easy to talk about when life is smooth and brutally hard to reach when your identity breaks, your plans collapse, or fear takes over. Sean Fargo sits down with leadership coach and author Jan Hoth, the “Joy Alchemist,” to get specific about what joy really is and what it is not. Visit Jan's website: https://www.janjoymentor.com/Buy her book: Joy Anyway: https://a.co/d/0bAmOfebWe draw a clear line between fleeting happiness and joy as a steady state of being that can hold grief, anger, and uncertainty without pretending they aren’t there.Jan shares her own turning point from teenage depression after an injury ended her swimmer identity, and how an audacious opportunity cracked open a new future. From there we get practical: mindfulness as the gateway, “micro joy” habits you can use in minutes, and her unforgettable “Fruit Loop moment” story from a children’s hospital that became a repeatable tool for resilience. If you’ve felt stuck after divorce, job loss, burnout, retirement, or a health scare, this conversation offers grounded steps for finding possibility again.We also go straight at toxic positivity, the signs you’re forcing a smile, and why the fastest route back to authentic joy sometimes starts with letting yourself feel the full depth of the moment. For entrepreneurs, managers, community leaders, and therapists, we explore joy as a leadership superpower that improves creativity, decisiveness, and team culture without guilt or bypassing. If this helped you, subscribe, share with a friend who needs a little light, and leave a review so more people can find the show.BECOME A CERTIFIED MINDFULNESS MEDITATION TEACHER Teach mindfulness with confidence and skill — without self-doubt, fear of judgment, or imposter syndrome. Our internationally accredited certification is for therapists, coaches, yoga teachers, educators, and helping professionals. Accredited by the IMMA and CPD; endorsed by Gabor Maté and Rick Hanson. → https://mindfulnessexercises.com/certification/NEW HERE? START FREE Explore 3,000+ free guided meditations, scripts, and worksheets — for your own practice or to share with the people you teach. → https://mindfulnessexercises.com/free-mindfulness-exercises/ENJOYING THE PODCAST? Follow the show in your favorite app and leave a quick rating or review. It takes a moment, and it genuinely helps more teachers and practitioners find these conversations.———————————————————————————ABOUT THE SHOWMindfulness Exercises with Sean Fargo is a practical, grounded mindfulness podcast for people who want meditation to actually help in real life.Hosted by Sean Fargo — a former Buddhist monk, mindfulness teacher, and founder of MindfulnessExercises.com — the show explores how mindfulness can support mental health, emotional regulation, trauma sensitivity, chronic pain, leadership, creativity, and meaningful work.Each episode offers a mix o...

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Joy is easy to talk about when life is smooth and brutally hard to reach when your identity breaks, your plans collapse, or fear takes over. Sean Fargo sits down with leadership coach and author Jan Hoth, the “Joy Alchemist,” to get specific about what joy really is and what it is not. Visit Jan's website: https://www.janjoymentor.com/ Buy her book: Joy Anyway: https://a.co/d/0bAmOfeb We draw a clear line between fleeting happiness and joy as a steady state of being that can hold grief,...

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