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Justin Gaethje vs Ilia Topuria Just Got Personal, Tom Aspinall's Future & UFC White House Chaos

from You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen · host Chael Sonnen

What started as a dream UFC White House card just got a whole lot messier. Chael breaks down the suddenly personal feud between Justin Gaethje and Ilia Topuria, why this fight may have found the missing ingredient it needed, and whether Topuria will really refuse to shake Gaethje's hand after it's over. Then, Chael examines one of the biggest unanswered questions in the sport: what's really going on with Tom Aspinall? From Eddie Hearn's involvement to the heavyweight domino effect involving Ciryl Gane, Alex Pereira, Volkov, Pavlovich and Josh Hokit, the entire division could be reshaped by one result. Plus, Chael weighs in on Dricus du Plessis calling out Kamaru Usman for not signing, why contract delays can destroy title hopes, and answers your questions during Ask Uncle Chael: including Sean O'Malley, Michael Chandler, Islam Makhachev, and Bo Nickal. Head to https://www.tryfum.com/WELCOMECHAEL to get your free gift with purchase, and start The Good Habit today! To support this program, please review it on Apple Podcasts or submit a rating on my Spotify page. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Chael breaks down the suddenly personal feud between Justin Gaethje and Ilia Topuria. Examines what's really going on with Tom Aspinall. WH Card preview. And your questions answered during Ask Uncle Chael

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