EPISODE · Apr 15, 2026 · 29 MIN
KIC S4E6 “What Really Motivates Students? Shifting from Rewards to Conditions” Featuring Dr. Bryan Harris
from Karten's Inclusion Conversations Podcast · host Toby Karten
In this episode of KIC Karten’s Inclusion Conversations, Toby explores the multifaceted concept of student motivation in education through a discussion with Dr. Brian Harris. The conversation highlights motivation as the force that moves students toward goals and distinguishes between intrinsic (internal) and extrinsic (external) motivation. Dr. Harris emphasizes that while extrinsic strategies like rewards and behavior systems may produce short-term compliance, they are often ineffective for long-term growth, particularly among diverse learners. A key theme is the need to differentiate not only instruction but also behavioral supports, recognizing that students are motivated by different factors. The discussion also critiques common practices such as clip charts and misapplied PBIS systems, advocating instead for recognition over rewards and for creating conditions—such as autonomy, competence, relatedness, relevance, and curiosity—that naturally foster motivation. Websites shared in this episode:https://www.bryan-harris.com/ https://www.practicaledpd.com/dr-bryan-harris.html https://www.apa.org/members/content/intrinsic-motivation https://www.researchgate.net/publication/374735098_Using_Behavior-Specific_Praise_to_Support_Intrinsic_Motivation https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/usable-knowledge/16/09/intrinsically-motivated https://www.apa.org/ed/schools/teaching-learning/top-twenty/disabilities/motivation #TobyKarten #Karten’sInclusionConversations #KIC #Inclusion #Dr.BryanHarris #EducationPodcast #TeachersOfInstagram #EdLeadership #TeachBetter #K12Education #TeacherLife #StudentMotivation #IntrinsicMotivation #ExtrinsicMotivation #MotivationMatters #LearningScience #MindsetMatters #InclusiveEducation #SpecialEducation #Differentiation #EquityInEducation #AllMeansAll #ClassroomManagement #PBIS #StudentEngagement #TeachingStrategies #EdTips #PodcastForTeachers #EdPodcast #NowListening #ProfessionalLearning For more information please visit https://inclusionworkshops.com/
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In this episode of KIC Karten’s Inclusion Conversations, Toby explores the multifaceted concept of student motivation in education through a discussion with Dr. Brian Harris. The conversation highlights motivation as the force that moves students toward goals and distinguishes between intrinsic (internal) and extrinsic (external) motivation. Dr. Harris emphasizes that while extrinsic strategies like rewards and behavior systems may produce short-term compliance, they are often ineffective for...
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