EPISODE · Jan 25, 2026 · 51 MIN
LIVE: Nick Reiner's 2020 Conservatorship & The California Law That May Have Sealed His Parents' Fate
from Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns · host Hidden Killers Podcast
Breaking it all down live: Nick Reiner was under a court-ordered LPS conservatorship in 2020. A judge found him "gravely disabled." A licensed fiduciary—Steven Baer—controlled his treatment decisions. He could be forced into a locked psychiatric facility against his will. California gave the Reiners everything the law allows. One year later, it was gone. Four years later, Rob and Michele Reiner are dead.The loophole nobody's discussing: under California law, if a family provides food, clothing, and shelter for a mentally ill loved one, that person may no longer meet the "gravely disabled" standard. The very act of caring for your child can disqualify them from forced treatment. The Reiners may have lost legal authority over their son's care because they refused to abandon him.We're examining the timeline in detail: 2019 police calls to the Reiner home. Nick's reported schizophrenia diagnosis around 2020. The conservatorship that lasted just one year. The medication change approximately one month before the killings that sources say triggered a "complete break from reality." And we're breaking down why former conservator Steven Baer will almost certainly be called as a witness—what he knows, what he'll likely testify to, and how it affects Nick's defense.This case forces a larger conversation. Before 1967, families could petition courts to hospitalize psychotic relatives. California's Lanterman-Petris-Short Act dismantled that system. The state went from housing 37,000 patients in psychiatric hospitals to fewer than 1,500 people on involuntary conservatorships today. The Reiners reportedly tried everything—more than a dozen facilities, the best doctors money could buy. None of it mattered because families cannot initiate conservatorships. Only hospital staff can.Join us live as we ask the question nobody wants to answer: did we trade one form of cruelty for another?#NickReiner #RobReiner #MicheleReiner #LPSConservatorship #HiddenKillersLive #StevenBaer #Deinstitutionalization #CaliforniaLaw #LiveBreakdown #SystemFailureJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.
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