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EPISODE · Jul 2, 2026 · 29 MIN

Living the Both/And: Finding God in the Grueling and the Glorious

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Today I want to talk about something I can't stop noticing: I don't know a single woman right now who isn't living in the "both/and." Something in her life is genuinely grueling — bringing her to her knees hard — and at the very same time, her life is so beautiful and there's so much to be grateful for. I'm living it, my friends are living it, my clients are living it.  In this episode: You need permission to hold two truths at once. If you're in a season that feels like the hardest and most beautiful thing you've ever lived through, I want you to know you're not broken and you're not alone — and I'll walk you through how to hold both without letting the hard part win. I'll give you a real, practical reframe. It's not enough to just feel better — I'll show you the shift I use myself: instead of spinning on what's wrong, I ask "where did I leave God out of the equation?" It turns frustration into an invitation instead of a shame spiral. I'm getting personal. I'm telling you about my own court case, why leaving Italy broke my heart, and how Paris — a place I never once dreamed of living — turned out to be even better than what I thought couldn't be topped. If you're waiting on your own "better than I imagined," this is for you. Resources  Substack The Audacity to be Queen by Gina DeVee Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Today I want to talk about something I can't stop noticing: I don't know a single woman right now who isn't living in the "both/and." Something in her life is genuinely grueling — bringing her to her knees hard — and at the very same time, her life is so beautiful and there's so much to be grateful for. I'm living it, my friends are living it, my clients are living it.

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