"Look in those white spaces" - Dr. Todd Grindal of SRI

In this episode of Land and Lead, Dr. Josh Elmore speaks with Dr. Todd Grindal, President of SRI Education, about stepping into a high-stakes leadership role during a period of major disruption as federal funding priorities were shifting. Drawing on his progression through SRI and his background as a researcher, teacher, and administrator, Todd reflects on the importance of humility, listening, strategic clarity, and decision-making amid uncertainty. He shares how he led through crisis by focusing the organization on excellence, unique value, mission, and impact. Todd also offers a powerful lesson on looking for what is missing—the “white space”—when interpreting data and leading change.