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EPISODE · Aug 27, 2025 · 55 MIN

LT+文莉:从音乐到心理学博士,如何打通痛苦和成长

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【适合谁】正在探索自我、寻求内在成长,并希望将痛苦转化为人生智慧的人【内容】01:23 文莉,北师大心理咨询专业在读博士,心理咨询师,正念老师02:03 回顾从本科音乐到硕士心理学,再到博士科研的转变过程02:44 如何从音乐转向心理学并走上科研道路,受哥哥影响学音乐,大学时因对社会心理学感兴趣而转向心理学03:30 谈到大学是价值观形成重要阶段,心理学提供了更本质的视角和答案04:21 认为跨专业过程不简单,邀请分享备考和转变中的困难04:57 坦言作为艺术生,需重建学习习惯和理性思维系统,过程充满挑战05:34 做出跨专业选择时,坚定跨专业的动力来源,分享直觉强烈感受,像"大本营在召唤",有被选中的笃定感06:37 家人觉得可惜但支持选择,未丢弃音乐,仍在教学07:22 分享自己听从直觉的经历,理解"回家"的安定感08:21 读研时重建系统的主观痛苦,需高强度逻辑训练,过程艰难9:45 艺术到心理的跨度尤为颠覆,孤独感更强10:44 分享博士阶段才逐渐整合两个系统,过程抽象且已内化12:39 走上正念之路,谈直觉选择及与智慧、成长的连接,仍凭直觉选择,之后发现来对地方16:00 谈目前多任务挑战(科研、咨询、音乐、正念),正在协调中,珍视每个部分18:15 700小时心理咨询时数,认为咨询是滋养的空间21:07 表示从一开始就很少觉得咨询消耗,多是滋养模式,偶尔受自身状态影响21:33 分享自身改变,正念练习提升情绪容纳度,在教练对话中不再被情绪带走24:53 探讨对痛苦的新视角,认为这是咨询中常见且重要的议题25:09 解构"痛苦"本质,是自我能力与环境要求碰撞产生的主观体验27:22 以家人和猫为例,说明不同个体对相同环境有不同反应,背后是自动化模式30:26 应对超出能力范围事件的方式至关重要,可能发展出僵化保护模式31:28 提出教练与心理咨询的基本假设不同,不将问题视为需解决的"痛苦"33:01 总结这是目标导向与问题导向的区别,并认同需根据个体情况选择适合方法35:07 建议若困扰日常,可寻求咨询、教练等方式,借助第三方视角获得帮助36:54 强调知行合一,经验不能迷信,需自己实践走出自己的路38:31 指出经历不可复制,重要的是听众能通过这些视角链接自己,找到自己39:27 倡导遵从内心,每个人天生不同,不应以他人标准要求自己40:39 如果有标准答案,这件事会变得封闭,如果更多用好奇心去看这件事发生了什么,那就会用很多空间41:19 提出如何"看见自己"对有些人困难,建议用耐心和好奇心观察自身体验44:31 分享自身主线是寻找意义感,尝试多种事情后,现在所做之事带来巨大滋养46:19 认为走向自己的过程能生发智慧,照顾好自己46:47 分享真正遵从内心后,才进入正向循环,连接更深,输出更有力量47:35 强调任何发生都合理,应对背后的理由好奇而非批判,要爱自己48:03 认为痛苦可转化为力量,值得体验这种转化而非打压自己48:47 将痛苦与成长比作硬币两面,转化后是让自我空间变大的礼物50:06 用"跳进兔子洞"比喻改变需要行动,一次次跳下去才会发生54:21 鼓励勇敢追寻内心,看见并找到自己,这才是真正的自由55:02 接纳当下自己,任何经历都是最宝贵的【本期嘉宾 - 文莉】北京师范大学心理学部临床与咨询心理硕士,博士在读中国心理学会CPS注册心理师X-25-099牛津正念OMF正念认知疗法MBCT-L受训师资曾在北京多所高校担任外聘心理咨询师小红书:心理师宋文莉剪辑丨柚子配乐丨A Serenade to Veracruz - Jimena Contreras【关于我 - 兰婷】正念老师·转型教练|兰婷,教练对话/正念/NLP/催眠,助你化解转型期的迷茫内耗与行动瘫痪,重塑清晰、高效、自驱的人生系统公众号  LET见心房  视频平台  转型翅膀兰婷  小报童专栏《见心之旅》联系我免费领取《转型期生存指南》  +lattezhong33 备注“指南”【见心房社群】心身觉察成长社群  每周工作日午晚合格师资带领公益正念练习,以及社群内开放教练对话,和其他身心觉察、个人成长工作坊、活动及课程MBSR静观减压8周课(11-12月周日上午班),10.12/11.2周日上午9:30-11:00的免费线上介绍会,加 let_studio 备注“心力”;见心书写营,21天冥想+书写,加 let_studio 备注“见心”在小宇宙查看该单集文稿

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