EPISODE · Nov 19, 2025 · 36 MIN
Make a Game You Can Win | Chris Savage, Co-Founder & CEO of Wistia
from Revenue Mind · host Jolie Shapiro
From live-recording on Wistia’s new (beta) platform to reframing “failure,” funding, and mental fitness, Wistia cofounder/CEO Chris Savage shares how creative optimism and long horizons build durable companies: pick problems worth working on for years, listen hard, ship again, and design recovery so you don’t burn out. Key Takeaways • Failure vs feedback: crickets → quit; caring feedback → iterate. • Choose a winnable game: align funding with your tempo (not “triple-triple-double”). • Small + patient can be an edge; timing is often slower than you think. • Recovery is a strategy: daily workouts ↑ stress capacity; delegate to protect energy. • Lead (and parent) by modeling: behavior ripples through teams. • Honesty compounds trust: own mistakes publicly and flip them into loyalty. • Use customers’ language; expect spike-drop-rebuild post-launch. Timestamps 00:00 Intro / “What makes you you?” 02:00 UX tips: Stage view, pop-out, device-switch quirks 05:20 “What makes you you?”, optimistic, excitable, pathfinding 08:30 Failure vs. feedback; when to persist vs. walk away 10:45 Webinars pivot: acquire → rebuild → months of low trials/no retention 15:10 Funding fit & expectations: bootstrapped + debt buyback; different game 18:30 Near-sale (2017) → “pretend we sold”: vacations, delegation, balance 22:40 Stress & recovery: daily workouts, capacity, team leverage (oxygen-mask rule) 26:00 Modeling at home & work; radical honesty (“we messed up” email) 29:30 Wistia's success: right macro shift, patience, culture; be your own best customer 33:00 Launch reality: spike → drop → compounding touchpoints 34:30 Where to find Chris Like this one? Follow Revenue Mind, and leave a review if it hit home. It’s how more revenue leaders find the show, and how we keep mental health right next to the number. Links Chris Savage: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cjsavage/ Wistia: https://wistia.com/ Talking Too Loud Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-too-loud-with-chris-savage/id1525785118 The Art of Learning: https://www.joshwaitzkin.com/the-art-of-learning Jolie Shapiro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolieshapiro/ Revenue Mind: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revenuemind/
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