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EPISODE · Nov 16, 2025 · 27 MIN

Make Money by Doing Things a Better Way

from Travis Makes Money · host Travis Chappell

Nelson Repenning and Don Kieffer are longtime collaborators and professors at the MIT Sloan School of Management. With nearly 30 years of combined research, leadership experience, and hands-on work inside major organizations, they specialize in fixing broken systems, developing leaders, and helping teams operate at peak performance. They are co-authors of the new book There’s Got to Be a Better Way, a practical, field-tested guide to improving how people work. On this episode we talk about: How Nelson and Don each earned their very first dollar Why early childhood experiences shape lifelong money habits Practical ways parents can teach kids about money today The surprising paths that led both professors into higher education How a chance meeting at Harley-Davidson sparked a 30-year collaboration Why fixing knowledge work is harder than fixing factory work The origin story behind their new book and why it finally came together What teaching leaders revealed about how people actually learn Why improving work makes companies more profitable and people happier Top 3 Takeaways Improving work isn’t about grinding harder — it’s about designing systems that allow people to succeed. Kids learn more from watching how adults handle money than from any formal lesson. Long-term collaboration thrives when partners bring different strengths but share the same mission. Notable Quotes “If you want better results, you don’t fix the people — you fix the work.” “Kids learn about money by seeing how you treat it, not by what you tell them.” “The moment we started teaching our ideas, we realized how much more we had to learn.” Purchase a Copy of "There's Got To Be a Better Way" https://www.amazon.com/Theres-Got-Be-Better-Way/dp/1541704622 ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nelson Repenning and Don Kieffer are longtime collaborators and professors at the MIT Sloan School of Management. With nearly 30 years of combined research, leadership experience, and hands-on work inside major organizations, they specialize in fixing broken systems, developing leaders, and helping teams operate at peak performance. They are co-authors of the new book There’s Got to Be a Better Way, a practical, field-tested guide to improving how people work. On this episode we talk about: How Nelson and Don each earned their very first dollar Why early childhood experiences shape lifelong money habits Practical ways parents can teach kids about money today The surprising paths that led both professors into higher education How a chance meeting at Harley-Davidson sparked a 30-year collaboration Why fixing knowledge work is harder than fixing factory work The origin story behind their new book and why it finally came together What teaching leaders revealed about how people actually learn Why improving work makes companies more profitable and people happier Top 3 Takeaways Improving work isn’t about grinding harder — it’s about designing systems that allow people to succeed. Kids learn more from watching how adults handle money than from any formal lesson. Long-term collaboration thrives when partners bring different strengths but share the same mission. Notable Quotes “If you want better results, you don’t fix the people — you fix the work.” “Kids learn about money by seeing how you treat it, not by what you tell them.” “The moment we started teaching our ideas, we realized how much more we had to learn.” Purchase a Copy of "There's Got To Be a Better Way" https://www.amazon.com/Theres-Got-Be-Better-Way/dp/1541704622 ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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