EPISODE · Jun 6, 2025 · 1H 35M
Making markets, creating value and building for the long-term
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Jay, Jamie, Ivan and Leyla sit down together and examine the markets growing optimism, gallery models, transparency and creating value and confidence for both artists and collectors. 01:00 - Jay's summer break 05:53 - Twitter toxicity and curating your social feeds 09:30 - The market's heating up 15:40 - Speculation vs desire 18:30 - The confidence speculation can inspire in a collector base 19:50 The benefits and difficulties of playing in an emergent space 22:10 - Jay and Jamies' collecting thesis 27:37 - Financial realities and looking for a return 29:20 - Advice for new entrants to the space 33:00 - Balancing business, artist and collector interests 40:45 - Making the market 44:03 - What creates confidence and value around an artist 47:00 - Building market confidence and adopting a Gagosian model 53:16 - Artifice, transparency and creating real demand 56:33 - The issues with pursuing a traditional gallery model in the web3 space 01:02:50 - How important is a program and justifying time spent 01:08:38 - A difference in approaches between the traditional and web3 spaces 01:11:33 - The importance of a diversified program 01:12:45 - Artist Highlights 01:15:03 - Evolving collector tastes 01:17:45 - "The subject matter doesn't make the piece" 01:20:03 - Has the space's aesthetic been calcified? Skygolpe: https://x.com/skygolpe Jack: https://x.com/franskeej Frank Manzano: https://x.com/loved_orleer Itsgalo: https://x.com/galoandstuff ex_mortal_: https://x.com/ex_mortal_ canek zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata Robinson St. George: https://x.com/rbnsnstgrg skomra: https://x.com/skomra neuraldivine: https://x.com/neural_divine MCHX: https://x.com/mchx17 DJKero: https://x.com/djkero Greg Nikshumika: https://x.com/gregnikshumika Kyle Flemmer: https://x.com/wildmissingnos Nicolas Sassoon: https://x.com/nicolas_sassoon Jeres: https://x.com/heyjeres Erik Swahn: https://x.com/erikswahn Godmin Lilan Yang: https://www.instagram.com/lilanyang.studio
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Jay, Jamie, Ivan and Leyla sit down together and examine the markets growing optimism, gallery models, transparency and creating value and confidence for both artists and collectors. 01:00 - Jay's summer break 05:53 - Twitter toxicity and curating your social feeds 09:30 - The market's heating up 15:40 - Speculation vs desire 18:30 - The confidence speculation can inspire in a collector base 19:50 The benefits and difficulties of playing in a...
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