Margaret Allen

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I'm Ash. And this is a mini-morbid. And it's Ash-centric. Mini-mini-mini-mini-mini-morbid.

Mini-morbid. Mini-morbid. Mini-morbid. Mini-morbid.

I think that should be, like, my, like, Instagram name. It's Ash-centric. Ash-centric. It's hard to say, though.

Ash-centric. Ash-centric. Plus, everybody I know calls me Ash Kelly B3, so. Oh.

Well, it's weird. Not everyone I know. I was going to say, that's real weird. Oh, my friends.

Well, this is a mini-sode. So this means we just barrel on in. I don't think you're going to know this case, because it's very obscure, and I have to go on. I'm pretty obscure, though.

You are pretty obscure. I have, like, a fucking sweater bite on my shoulder. Cool. You seen that?

Yeah. Look at that shit. Anyways. So this is a case of.

I think I was going to say first that I went on Murderpedia to find it. Did I say that out loud? Don't know. I did go on Murderpedia to find this.

So Margaret Allen was born in 1906 in the UK, and she grew up, and I'm going to butcher this name, Lancashire. Thank you. Lancashire. England.

Oh, so many people have even, hold on, people have messaged about this from the UK about the Shires. Oh. Worcestershire. It's sheer.

Because they told me it's like we say Worcestershire. Okay, so I'm going to say, she grew up in Lancashire, England. Thank you, UK listeners. She was the 20th of 22 children.

Bye. I'm, like, offended by that. Oh, yeah. You know that time when you thought that you'd never been shooketh before?

I'm shooketh, yeah. Like, you told me I would know what it felt like. I know what it feels like. That's what it feels like.

Woof. 22 kids. I'm going to go ahead and be crude here. Imagine the pain in your hoo-ha after 22 kids.

My lord. That woman is a, I don't know what she is. She's a warrior? She's a dugger.

She's a dugger. That's what she is. She's an early century dugger. She legit is.

We'll get through this. We will. So, yeah, from childhood, she didn't identify as being a girl, although she was born a girl. Okay.

So, at one point in this, I, just so it's not confusing for anybody, I wanted to be respectful of the trans community, and I don't know what she would have wanted, so I started referring to her as they. Oh, that's smart. A little later on. Yeah, that's smart.

Just so you know. Yeah, that's a good way to do it. So, I don't do it in the beginning, just because I'm talking about her when she was, like, first born, but later on I switch. Yeah, then that's fine.

Okay. Because this is a long time ago. You don't have her here to talk. Right, and I don't know what she would have for her.

So, just so everybody knows, I'm trying my best to be very respectful of both communities. So, or all the communities. Just all of them. I said both, like I was talking about, too.

Both communities, that's it. All right, we're digressing a lot. It's my fault. So, yeah, she liked to hang out with the guys in her town, and she worked jobs that were pretty much, like, only given to men in those days.

She loaded coal, repaired... Oh, my God, I was just going to say coal man. Yeah, she loaded coal. She repaired houses, and she also became a bus conductor.

Wow. So, apparently, though, she was, like, really intense, and she swore a ton, and she was really aggressive, and she had that temper. I mean, Margaret. Which sounds like every bus driver I have, to be quite honest.

I mean, she's just being Margaret. Yeah, she's like, God, are you there? She is, she is. Hey, it's me still.

I want to read that book. It's still me. Anyways, she, like I said, was super intense, and when she was working as a bus driver, she eventually got fired because of her bad attitude and apparent abuses toward passengers. Oh.

So, I mean, yeah. People, if they didn't sit down in their seats quickly enough, she would yell at them, or shove them, or cuff them, which I don't know exactly what that means, but I was like, did she straight up handcuff them to their seats? Like, what that was going to mean? I looked into it.

I don't know. Cuffing. What is early century cuffing? English listeners, let me know.

I might look this up while you talk. Yeah, feel free. So, yeah, but you could see why it didn't work out for her to be a bus driver. Yeah, I feel like that might not have been her calling, you know?

A few conflicts of interest, I would say. Yeah, I feel like that's no good. So, in 1935, some years later, she told people that she underwent, like, this operation, and nobody really knew what it was for, but she said it was, like, you know, like, casual, like, thing, whatever. Yeah.

But later, she explained that the operation was to change from a woman to a man. So, it's unknown whether or not this is true, because at the time, those operations, like, weren't super common at all. Yeah, I was going to say. So, it is possible.

But either way, after telling people that she had had this operation, she cut, or excuse me, she lived her life as a man, she cut her hair, started wearing men's clothing, she hung out with, like, mostly men, like, she didn't have a lot of, like, woman friends, and she also started referring to herself as Bill. Okay. So, from this point on, I'm going to switch today. Margaret as Bill.

Okay. Because, just so you know. Because that seems to be one position. Yeah.

So, Bill also took up drinking in bars and surrounded themselves with mostly men for friends, like I said. And they apparently did have one female friend named Anne Cook, but it's rumored that on vacation, Margaret slash Bill made advances and wanted Anne Cook to be his girlfriend, but Anne wasn't interested in the friendship at it. Oh, now that's tough. And I don't know if she was, like, bitch about it, or, like, if Anne was, or if she wasn't, I don't know.

Anne, let us know. Were you a bitch about it? Were you a bitch about it or were you nice? Because it's important to let people down easy.

It is. So, yeah. So, that all happened. And then, actually, you know what?

I said that I was going to start referring to them as Alan, because that's the last name. Okay, yeah, that's easier. So, I'm going to say Alan, and then if I need to use a pronoun, I'll say they. Okay.

So, in 1943, Alan's mother passed away, and Alan's mental health rapidly declined. They started smoking excessively, eating less, not taking care of themselves, they stopped going out with friends, and basically, they just experienced, like, a pretty big depression. Yeah. Which is understandable when you need somebody, especially a parent.

Yeah. So, Alan took all their savings and used it to buy a pretty much abandoned building that used to be, I'm also going to ruin this name, Rottenstalls Police Quarters. I like it. Rottenstalls?

It's R-A-W-T-E-N-S-T-A-L-L. It sounds like Rottenstalls. Or maybe, like, Rottenstalls? I don't know.

Rottenstalls seems better. Either way, the building that they bought used to be that police headquarters. It was located on the town's main street, which was Backup Road, or Bacoup, or however you say it in your English. I don't know.

Alan lived alone. It hit a decor. I really hope it's Bacoup. It's Bacoup Street.

Go drive onto Bacoup Street. Yeah, that sounds right, actually. I normally never get that right back then. That was so funny.

I'm not going to lie, that was pretty tragic. What? I'm normally so much better. Fuck.

Wow. My brain is just like, woo, woo. You know? We can't always just jump into each other.

Excellent. Like, bye. It's a good one. Oh, see.

Redemption? No? Oh, awesome. We're almost there.

But, oh, according to Anne Cook, Alan did try to commit suicide at least once using gas. Like, inhalation, I'm assuming. Yeah. So, on August 28th, 1948, 68-year-old Mrs.

Nancy Ellen Chadwick knocked on Alan's door. Apparently, I read one place to borrow a cup of sugar, because Nancy was a neighbor. Nancy's always borrowing a cup of sugar, I feel like. Yeah, she definitely is.

If Nancy's your neighbor, she can borrow a cup of sugar. Like, Nance, you know, why don't you just, I'm going to give you this whole bag of sugar, and just do with it what you will. And don't knock on my door again. I don't like people.

No. And that's what Bill said to Nance. Oh, okay. No, I'm just kidding.

I was like, wow. So, let's get back to, like, who Nancy was. Okay. She was a widow.

She was described as disagreeable, pestering, and eccentric. All right. Which is honestly, like, other than the pestering, how I want people to describe me. Disagreeable and eccentric.

Yeah, I am disagreeable, and I am eccentric. That should be, like, your bio. The name of your autobiography. Oh, that would be great.

Disagreeable and eccentric. I love that. The Ash-Kell story. The Ash-Kell story.

Thank you. And good night. So, yeah, she was pretty much just a fucking annoying neighbor. Apparently, she was also, like, not poor.

So, everyone was like, why does she always fucking borrow my sugar? Interesting. Yeah, like, what's your endgame here? And she was known to carry large amounts of cash in a bag, but would, like, ask people for things that she, like, they're like, Nancy, go buy it with all the fucking cash you have in your pocket.

She's just walking around with a bag of cash with, like, a dollar sign. Literally. And she's like, can I borrow five dollars? I need some sugar.

Sugar. Sugar. So, anyway, the last place that Nancy was seen before she died was at Alan's home. That's no good.

That was no good. Never good. No. So, the next day, her body was found in the road right outside of Alan's house, which you can remember is the main Bekoop Road.

The main Bekoop Road. Yeah. That's where it was. So, it's just out there for everybody to see.

Straight up out there. When the police first discovered the body, they assumed that it was a hit-and-run case because, like, right in the middle of the street, you know, right on the middle of the street, like, lost the wounds and shit. But upon further investigation, the wound showed that they'd been inflicted from the pointy end of a coal hammer. Ooh.

Yeah. Wow. Fucking ouch. All right.

Like, bye. No, thank you. That's business. Thank you, next.

Yeah. No. That's business. And I don't know why this is important, but it was in the article.

So, also, they believed that the hammer was coated with ashes. Oh. Like, I don't know if they'd use it for fire. I don't know.

I don't know what ashes would do. I'm trying to think of a reason that that would be pertinent. It wasn't ever brought up in Lear. So, if anybody knows why that would be pertinent, let us know.

Yeah. Hang out. Hang out. Hang out.

Hang out. So, for some reason, Scotland Yard detectives were called in, but their investigation pretty much consisted of following the bloody trail from Alan's apartment to the dead body in the middle of the street. So, like, I don't really know if they needed to call in the detectives, but, you know what, they did the damn thing. Oh, well.

Another case solved. Yeah. Scotland Yard detectives. The world's finest.

They did, though, have to treat it like a regular investigation and carry out the usual steps. Of course. You can't just be like, oh, look. It's that blood trail.

He did it. But, you know, because they were kind of treating it like a regular investigation, Alan kind of believed that they were going to get away with it, because, like, they were like, oh, I fucking unsmarted them. Of course, of course you did. You really covered your tracks, you know?

But, you know, people like that. Like, they're narcissistic. Like, they always think that they're one step ahead of everybody. Like, I killed someone and I'm going to get away with it.

I'm smarter than everybody. That's stupid. Yeah. Even though I dumped them outside of my house on the main street with blood leading up to my apartment.

I just, like, had, like, a moment to, a flashback to Job Breaker, that movie, and she's like, I killed Liz. I killed the Teen B. Deal with it. The Teen Dream.

Teen Dream, right. I don't know why. I said Teen B. I think I was thinking Queen B.

But, like, what if somebody just used that audio of me being like, I killed someone and I'm going to get away with it. So, like, frame me for something. They could, no. Don't do that.

Be loyal listeners. Even if you leave a one-star review. That's true. Just don't take us to the prison, man.

No. I would not survive. No. Clearly.

No. So, Alan was like, I'm going to get away with it. Bye. And then, for the next few days, they went to, like, their usual bars.

And they bragged that they were the last one to see Chadwick alive. Cool. Which, if you're going to, like, try not to be a suspect, I would definitely say it's probably not in your best interest to say that you're the last person to see Chadwick I feel like that's kind of, like, Murder 101. Yeah.

They teach you, I think that's, like, the second day in. For sure. So, Alan became extremely overconfident and even told people that Nancy Chadwick had a hidden pocket in her underskirt that, uh, and said, quote, she was an old fool to sit on a roadside bench counting her money. Oh, that's awesome.

Because, like, I think that's what they were trying to say. Like, she was counting her money and then she was attached or something. Like, maybe, like, don't condemn or make fun of the victim either. And also, don't point out that she has a hidden pocket under her skirt.

Keyword. That everybody wouldn't know about. Hidden. Wow.

So, Alan's really just, like, doing the damn thing. Not the quickest. Yeah. So far two strikes for Alan.

Yeah. Actually, three strikes for Alan. Also, I read in one article, I forgot to put it in here, my bad, that, um, during the police investigation, he was just, like, during the police investigation, they were just, like, trying to distract the police and they pointed at, like, um, like, a pond, like, close by or, like, whatever, like, a river. And they were like, oh, look, there's her bag.

But they were like, how did you just spot that from, like, all the way over here? Yonder. Look, over yonder. I spot a bag and I'm short.

Oh, I'm sorry. And they were like, yeah, you're fucking. Wow, Alan. This is great.

They weren't doing the damn thing. They were not. So, on September 1st, 1948, the police visited Alan's home again. And that's when they noticed, which, like, really?

Uh, bloodstains on one of the walls inside by the doorway. More bloodstains in the cellar. And they also matched hairs from Nancy Chadwick's head to those found on Alan's clothing. Wow.

And on top of that, they found multiple belongings of Chadwick's. So. So things are not looking great. Alan was charged with murder.

No way. Yeah, I know. You didn't see it. Wow.

Yeah. Shocked. Crazy. Shocked.

Uh, and you know what? They admitted to it. I mean, at that point. And they said.

Yeah, already. This is what they said. Oh, God. I was in a funny mood.

She seemed to insist on coming into the house. I just happened to look around and saw a hammer in the kitchen. On the spur of the moment, I hit her. She gave me a shout.

That seemed to start me off more. And I hit her a few more times. I don't know how many. I mean, I'm not laughing that someone died.

That's horrific. But, like, I'm laughing at, like, these two. I was, I felt some type of way. I was in a mood.

She came to my door. She was being annoying. She wanted to come in. I look over to my left.

I'm like, this will stop her. There's a hammer. I mean. What was I not to do?

She yelled at me a little. And that was it. And I just didn't know how many times. Wow, what a confession.

So, yeah. What a confession. So, after five hours of deliberation, like, barely, barely five, the jury found Alan guilty and came up with a sentence of the death penalty. Whoa.

Alan's attorneys tried to get them off with a plea of insanity, but it didn't work out. No. Alan was really precious. Alan was, like, super chill about them.

There's no way they were going to insanity. Yeah. It seems to me, to be honest with you, that, like, in their background, they definitely struggled with mental issues. And I think today, they would have been more addressed.

But I think back then, it wasn't, it was, like, taboo to talk about the things that Alan was doing. I agree with that, but I still, they would still never get the insanity plea. Oh, no, no, no. Because they were very aware of what they were doing.

I'm saying, like, maybe, like, Alan wouldn't have been a murderer today. Because maybe they would have got the help they needed before it came back. Yeah. Yeah.

But, you know, they're still murderers, so it can't feel too bad. And also, they were just, just, like, all the things that they do, you're like, uh, I feel like there's an underlying issue here. As with most murderers. So, yeah, like I said, they were pretty aggressive throughout their last days.

They complained about the lack of comfort in the prison. Because, you know, it's not super comfy. Is that what it's for? Yeah.

Like, it's not the Ritz-Carlton. No, it's definitely not. I don't know if you thought that, but sorry it's not. It's not the Ritz-Carlton.

Bye. And also, when they got served the last meal, which was scrambled eggs per request. Wow, that's your last meal? Can I just say, that's, like, literally the shittiest last meal I've ever had.

I mean, I love scrambled eggs. I don't like scrambled eggs. I love eggs. I love eggs from my head down to my legs.

Okay. No, that used to be the commercial for it. Maybe you're too young for that. Maybe I just aged myself.

I don't remember when that commercial was up. It was like, I love eggs from my head down to my legs. Someone will remember it, I'm sure. Someone will remember it.

I don't want to call you old, because I'm not aged. Oh, I forgot. Somebody got mad at us about that. Yeah.

She's probably not listening, though, so it's cool. She listened to two minutes, remember, and then she was done. Yeah, bye care. Because you were bitches.

Bye. Bye. No, I love eggs from my head down to my legs, but I would not want eggs as my last meal. No, especially Scream.

I don't even know what I would want as my last meal. If, okay, but if you had to have eggs as your last meal, how would you have them served? That's a good question. I would say...

either over easy or sunny side up i would say eggs benedict over hash browns extra hollandaise oh girl i didn't know we could add more shit on you can only add like one other breakfast item then i would throw some hash browns in there yeah or no no no if i was actually gonna do it i take it back i would put it over corned beef hash only from cam though i only like corned beef hash from cam that shit to me is like worse than dog food i've said it once i'll say it again i'm trash anyways oh i love it uh yeah so oh okay so they got their scrambled eggs that's where we were and when they got scrambled eggs they kicked it across the room and said at least no one will enjoy that last meal oh damn it's like wow that's so saucy you're so mad why are you mad why are you like why are you kicking your eggs really i think like if i'm getting eggs i'm gonna eat them i'm gonna kick eggs i wouldn't want them scrambled if they were scrambled i'd kick them i would not just like i'd say kick rocks buddy that's my new thing that i like to say like okay kick rocks so on the morning of january 12th 1949 legally the name margaret allen expressed no remorse and went to the scaffold in the execution chamber quietly without any exclamation of the crime or any evident remorse wow and that is the quick story of margaret allen that's a crazy one i had not heard of that one yeah it was just on murderpedia that's crazy well we gave you a long one last week well that's it you usually get the short ones and i get the overly long ones so far we're not nailing the like 30 minute marketing one of us but it's fine it's okay it's cool other podcasts have 25 minute episodes hey this is a quick little one that you can get zoop to work listening to yeah go to the duncan duncan's track through yeah you'll get there yeah this was a good one thank you margaret slash bill is something else yeah maybe my new thing will be like kick scrambled eggs kick scrambled eggs a la margaret i dug it i'm glad and you're gonna also be getting a full link this week and we're gonna be covering elizabeth bathory oh damn which is one of my favorites i did a whole project on her in early high school i don't know a ton about her but i'm stoked we'll learn all kinds of shit i will alina assigns me my research every week i do she's like look at this and look at this look at this and it's normally the very small minute things that don't matter but it's okay because everybody has a part in this podcast we're all we're all important here all of us here all two of us are important yeah so and my dog who if you heard any snores or weird like snarts in the middle of this it was alina it was me and also much and also my dog who is snoring and slumbering happily next to us and she's just so cute yeah she's just so beautiful so yeah so stay tuned for elizabeth bathory um probably coming around on like friday i would say yeah and in the meantime we hope that you follow us on instagram at morbid podcast we hope that you send us some gmails at morbidpodcast.gmail.com we hope that you tweet at us a morbid podcast we hope that you join our facebook page that we just realized that we have to let people into and we're sorry it took so long morbid colon a true crime podcast and again i will start letting people into the group more regularly i forgot how to do that so thanks we're all learning here we are and you can also go to www.morbidpodcast.com to check out the lovely website that alina so greatly designed yeah we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird but not so weird that you just like murder a lady because she comes to your door and ask for sugar and then you get sent to jail and then you're like yeah i did it i don't know how many times i even did it and then you ask for scrambled eggs and then you kick them right across the floor spoil us bra not that weird don't do it eat your scrambled eggs damn it okay pick rocks not eggs bye as you wind down this evening let number seven prime forever serum be your secret to aging at the speed of glacier helping to pause the visible signs of skin aging number seven prime forever serum works to dramatically reduce skin aging activity while you sleep find the number seven prime forever range at selected booth stores and booths.ie subject to availability consumer testing dramatically reduces skin aging activity from antioxidant protection against surface oxidative stress