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EPISODE · Dec 6, 2025 · 40 MIN

Matt Odell: ”Saylor Kept Diluting You” is The REAL Reason MSTR Crashed 70%

from Treasury Orange - Bitcoin Podcast · host Tyler Rowe

🔥 $200M Bitcoin VC Matt Odell reveals why Saylor kept diluting MSTR shareholders - and why treasury companies without cash flow are dead (except Strategy). In this Treasury Orange exclusive, the partner at Ten31 who's deployed over $200 million to Bitcoin businesses reveals: ✅ Why Saylor kept hitting the common even after saying he'd stop (FOMO runs deep) 💰 "Treasury companies without cash flow won't be the winners" - Block vs Strategy model 📊 Bitcoin-backed loans are "the best terms you'll get out of all lending" in 5-10 years 🎯 Why Strike is minting Bitcoin with loans at 50% LTV (no credit checks, 5-minute approval) ⚡ The coordinated attack on MSTR: JP Morgan, MSCI, short sellers, S&P ratings 🚨 "Bitcoin risk/reward is the best it's ever been" - Trump + ETFs de-risked everything 💎 How Ten31 funds profitable Bitcoin businesses that stack to treasury (not pure-play leverage) like Block / Square. *THE BRUTAL TRUTH:* Matt doesn't hold back on Strategy: "He was pretty aggressive smacking the common over and over. Then he's like 'I'm not gonna keep hitting the common.' Two weeks later: 'No, I'm gonna keep diluting you.'" As a Bitcoiner, Matt gets the FOMO. But for shareholders watching 70% drawdowns: "You can believe it's a good 5-10 year play AND also say 'I'm not holding through him diluting me. I'm selling now, buying back later once it's clear he's not gonna just keep hitting the common.'" *TIMESTAMPS:* 00:00 Cold Open 01:07 Introduction to Matt Odell & How He Views Capital Allocation 03:10 The Evolution of Bitcoin Startups 06:57 Balancing Profitability and Growth in Bitcoin Startups 09:42 The Bitcoin Treasury Phenomenon 14:01 Cash Flow Generation in Bitcoin Companies 17:21 The Importance of Bitcoin Payments For Merchants & Living On A Bitcoin Standard 19:40 Bitcoin-Backed Loans: Use Cases and Risks 26:46 Microstrategy's (Strategy's) Challenges & Market Sentiment 31:59 Bitcoin As A Safe Haven Asset 37:13 Bitcoin's Role in a Corruptible World 39:39 Where To Follow Matt's Projects 40:06 Stay Orange *WHY THIS MATTERS:* Matt Odell is a partner at Ten31, a Bitcoin-only capital fund that's deployed $200M+ across 35 companies including Strike (largest investment), Unchained, Start9. He founded OpenSATS (funding open source Bitcoin projects), Bitcoin Park (Nashville community hub), and is a renowned Bitcoin educator. This is the insider's view of what ACTUALLY wins in Bitcoin businesses: profitable cash flow + treasury stacking. Not pure-play financial engineering (except Strategy's first-mover advantage with 650K BTC). Matt thinks Microstrategy will be able to monetize their bitcoin eventually. Matt explains why Strike's Bitcoin-backed loans (50% LTV, no credit check, 5-min approval) will become the best lending terms available. Why Block's model (profitable + stacking) will outperform treasuries long-term. And why Saylor's aggressive common dilution - despite understanding the thesis - created the recent pain. *MENTIONED:* MicroStrategy/Strategy (MSTR) - 650K Bitcoin, dilution analysis | Block/Square - Jack Dorsey's model | Strike - loans, buy/sell, going public via SPAC | Unchained - Bitcoin lending | XXI - Jack Mallers' treasury play | Strive/ProCap - digital credit attempts | MetaPlanet, NAKA | JP Morgan - margin requirements | MSCI - index exclusion | FTX/Celsius/BlockFi - lender collapses | Tornado Cash/Samourai | BlackRock ETF | Trump administration *CONNECT WITH MATT:* 🔔 Personal: https://odell.xyz 🔔 Ten31 on X: https://twitter.com/Ten31funds *RELATED TREASURY ORANGE VIDEOS:* 📺 Soleil on Trading Options: https://youtu.be/qamyJhu0zvI 📺 Strive CEO Matt Cole: https://youtu.be/8r21Ttd-DLY 📺 Swiss Bitcoin Treasury: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xfo_P3mY48 📺 BPI Policy Insider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIeSpsss4Mw 📧 Contact: [email protected] 🔔 Tyler on X: https://twitter.com/tylercompiler 🎙️ Treasury Orange: Analyzing Bitcoin treasury companies with insider access | TreasuryOrange.com https://youtube.com/@TreasuryOrange 🟠 STAY ORANGE #Bitcoin #MSTR #Strategy #MicroStrategy #MichaelSaylor #BitcoinVC #MattOdell #Ten31 #Strike #BitcoinLoans #BitcoinTreasury #Block #JackDorsey #Unchained #BitcoinStartups #TreasuryOrange #BitcoinInvesting ⚠️ Not financial advice - Educational content only P.S. The Bitcoin loan breakdown at 19:57 shows how Strike gets customers $1M loans in 5 minutes with just Bitcoin collateral. This changes everything for treasury investors with unrealized gains.

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