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EPISODE · May 5, 2026 · 23 MIN

Micro-SaaS, Cooperatives, and How to Outlast the AI Takeover

from Solving America's Problems

The Industrial Revolution comparison only holds if workers own a slice of what replaces them — and right now, most don't. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley press Ryan Kohler on whether AI is a net jobs creator, and his answer splits cleanly on ownership: the investor and tech class will deploy agents to cut headcount, but individuals who build first keep the value. Sarah Montana argues anyone can speak a business into existence by using AI to fill gaps nobody's serving yet. For a 58-year-old laid-off worker, the path is concrete — get near local problems, stack fractional work across small firms, and build micro-SaaS dashboards from QuickBooks or CRM data by finding a buyer before writing a single line of code. Cooperatives and guilds get named as the mechanism to share knowledge and reclaim spending power outside corporate systems.Timestamps:(00:00) Industrial Revolution redux – who actually wins when AI scales(00:14) AI creates jobs, maybe – Ryan steelmans the optimistic case(05:58) Cooperatives and guilds – grassroots ownership as the counterweight(09:57) 58, laid off, now what – proximity, fractional work, and a real next step(18:20) Buyer before builder – find the market before you prototype anythingConnect:Sarah Montana – WebsiteRyan Kohler – Website🌍 Connect with us: Instagram | YouTube | X

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