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Feb 20, 2025 57 min

Mitchell Hashimoto: Ghostty, libghostty & chasing the human experience

from Scaling DevTools Hosted by Jack Bridger

Mitchell Hashimoto - famously the founder of HashiCorp (creators of Terraform, Vault etc.) joins the show to discuss his latest open-source project, Ghostty, a modern terminal emulator. We discuss: Designing dev tools with a focus on human experience. Taking on large technical projects and breaking them down into achievable steps. Open source sustainability and the role of financial support. The impossible goal of building a perfect human experience with software. Passion and hiring—why obsession with a topic often leads to the best hires. Using AI as a developer and why Mitchell considers AI tooling essential. The motivation behind Ghostty and the idea of "technical philanthropy." The vision for libghostty as a reusable terminal core for other applications. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. https://workos.com/ Links: Ghostty (https://ghostty.org/) Mitchell Hashimoto on Twitter (https://twitter.com/mitchellh) Mitchell’s blog (https://mitchellh.com/)

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  1. 0:00 Introduction to Mitchell Hashimoto and Ghosty
  2. 2:49 The Importance of Passion in Development
  3. 5:47 Navigating New Normals: Family and Work Balance
  4. 8:53 The Role of Passionate Engineers
  5. 12:04 The Journey into Infrastructure and Automation
  6. 14:45 Human-Centric Design in Developer Tools
  7. 18:03 The Birth of Ghosty: A Terminal Emulator
  8. 20:51 Technical Philanthropy and Open Source Sustainability
  9. 23:50 Breaking Down Large Technical Projects
  10. 29:18 Iterative Learning and Practical Development
  11. 30:49 Contributing to Large Projects
  12. 32:51 Documenting Design Decisions
  13. 34:25 Navigating User Expectations
  14. 36:05 The Role of LibGhosty
  15. 40:28 AI's Impact on Programming
  16. 44:25 The Future of Programming Jobs
  17. 49:17 Innovations in Developer Tools
  18. 51:56 Chasing Human Experience in Development

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