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EPISODE · Dec 20, 2025 · 21 MIN

Navigating the Uncharted Waters of Transformation

from The 5Cs · host Charlene Norman

In the first episode, host Charlene Norman of Good Stewardship; Lasting Impact took a brutally honest look at the in between stage we are all living through -- the messy middle.  In the second episode, she began sharing the thoughts of Ernesto van Peborgh founder of the Seva Institute and prolific writer on Substack as a case study we can all learn from. In the third episode, she showed how the problems we face are not just personal or organizational—they are systemic. The “multi-polar traps” of complexity theory are everywhere and yes, they can be debilitating.  In this, the final episode, she finishes reading Ernesto's account, and shows how to navigate the messy, uncertain, and often lonely middle passage of transformation, with five practical, deeply-explored practices. She ends with an invitation.  The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.  Becausing addressing business stewardship climate risk and leadership together is in the highest good for all.  Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

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A conversation about climate risk, business leadership and stewardship. Journey Through the Darkness of Collapse. Part Four in a four part series specifically geared to sustainability professionals, entrepreneurs, changemakers and business leaders struggling to keep positive, hopeful and focussed.

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